AVB Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 I need to repair some render where I have taken out a letter box. I have some mortar but what’s the best way to get the ‘stippled’ effect to match the existing render? Will a stiff brush do or do I need a specific ‘gadget’. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Its difficult to get a visual match to the old Tyrolean render finish, but I guess a stiff hand brush would be close enough for a patch up. Tyrolean is usually sprayed on (best way) or with a hand Tyrolean gun (bit patchy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Ours is pebble render so the small pebbles are thrown at the wet tender then all painted over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Scrunched up dry newspaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy74 Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 wet plastic bag (older thin type) hold that up to the render and dab away with a small sick/pencil/whatever wet bag stops the render sticking to your stick and pulling on the surface too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, AVB said: I need to repair some render where I have taken out a letter box. I have some mortar but what’s the best way to get the ‘stippled’ effect to match the existing render? Will a stiff brush do or do I need a specific ‘gadget’. cheers. There are many 'stippled' finishes that can be achieved on render, so a photo of yours would help. 1 hour ago, old'un said: Its difficult to get a visual match to the old Tyrolean render finish, but I guess a stiff hand brush would be close enough for a patch up. Tyrolean is usually sprayed on (best way) or with a hand Tyrolean gun (bit patchy) I suspect that it's this ^^^^ Tyrolean. Small patches can be 'matched' by applying the render thicker than required, then removing some to reach the acquired finish. Large patches, use a Tyrolean applicator from a tool hire shop. Rendering/plastering sand is the stuff to use, not soft/building sand 😉 Edited May 3, 2020 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob525 Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 As above but I'd its k rend you've no chance!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 You still should be able to get an old fashioned tyroleon machine..They work strapped to the front of you and you fill the hanging trough up and turn a handle which chucks your rendering at the wall. I have not seen them in use for a number of years but they were brilliant.They had like a spiked roller at the bottom of the trough. If you can't get one it should be simple to make one. From Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Guns are still readily available at tool hire shops. Make your mix like soup and do it in a number of coats otherwise it will run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 This is what the original looks like. I only need to do a small bit as we previously had a letter box in the wall which I have now removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) OK, now we can see it's not a Tyrolean finish. That's more of a rough-cast finish. Use rendering /plastering sand, 4 parts to 1 of cement,,,, apply to the same thickness and leave to nearly go off, ie, still feels a bit soft to the touch, but not 'wet' if that makes sense. Then use a few stiff bristles from a broom to to attempt to get the same finish. You could try to just dab a small stiff bristled brush onto the surface first to see how that goes. Edit to add,,,, when you trowel it on it will be smooth. Over-thickness slightly, then gently scrape off the surface with edge of trowel or wooden batten to achieve the correct level and the rough look. A bit of trial and error and you'll get it perfect 😊 Edited May 3, 2020 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Cheers all. Previously I would never attempted something like that but since stopping work in February have amazed myself at what I have a achieved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Wouldnt call that rough cast,,,looks like a scratch pulled out finish.... try using a sponge and 4" stiffish bristle brush Trowel on smooth,,,put old sponge flat on surface and almost pull it out so as suction pulls cement outwards then dab back in with brush,, worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Whack it with a Churn Brush as used for lime mortar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) Looks like snowcrete white cement to me. No matter what you use or who done the job it will stand out like a sore thumb. Put another letterbox in, or some sort of feature to cover it. Here's a link to K rend, looks a lot like yours https://www.k-rend.co.uk/products/silicone-scraped-texture Edited May 4, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob525 Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 7 hours ago, figgy said: Looks like snowcrete white cement to me. No matter what you use or who done the job it will stand out like a sore thumb. Put another letterbox in, or some sort of feature to cover it. Here's a link to K rend, looks a lot like yours https://www.k-rend.co.uk/products/silicone-scraped-texture Yea that's k rend. If you dont want the letter box in I'd brick it up then stick the face plate back on it... might **** your postie off tho! Failing that use a white air vent cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Rob525 said: Yea that's k rend. If you dont want the letter box in I'd brick it up then stick the face plate back on it... might **** your postie off tho! Failing that use a white air vent cover I have bricked it up today and tomorrow I will attempt the render. If it looks horrendous I will put a name plate over it. thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Nothing to lose by rendering, a strategically positioned plant will cover a small difference in texture and colour. Don’t judge yourself too harshly, time will soften how much you see it. Your eye may see a repair as you know it is there, but your visitors will never notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Use a Darby after putting the render on to get it flat with its surrounding render. If no Darby, decent sized float or spirit level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 This is the end result. Not prefect but I think the paint will ‘weather’ a bit over time. I thinks it’s better than having a redundant letter box (and the inside flap always fell off which I have plastered over as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Looks very good and very acceptable IMO 👍 Is that a Rockdoor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 hello, looks a proper job there, think your camera needs looking at next😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 I'd be worried about my house laying on its side. You will forget about how lumpy it looks in time and how much it stands out. I'd use the backdoor for a while 😂 Only kidding it looks ok, very hard to get a perfect repair even for pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Thanks. All of it needs to be put into the context of me being absolutely **** at diy. Or I was until lockdown! Now I have discovered hidden talents. I am even replacing bits on my Defender. Took a couple of panels off yesterday to replace with new. I am amazing myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Defenders are easy to take apart, it's getting the bit to stay on them that hard 😂 Enjoy it and in the modern age YouTube is your friend for how to's on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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