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I was out with my two lurchers and a yellow lab came running at me barking and growling i dropped my dogs leads and they ran at the lab who turned tail screaming and ran away i called mine back and carried on walking in a big loop yet to see a owner .Then my wife was walking my two and a boxer ran at them and the owners screaming his head off at it and being ignored one of my bitches rolled it and lay on it . it couldn't move , My wife said up and my bitch got off the boxer who started to move away then ran at them again only for the same to happen by then my second bitch is ready to pile in and the owner gets there and mutters sorry my wife says do you need to borrow a lead if i get my dog off it again ?. only for the dog and owner to slink away . now i reckon that guy lets that dog run into everybodies dog as it usually comes of best 

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54 minutes ago, chilly1981 said:

Lot of  my dogs trained better than your dog posts here 

the op said the dogs were already happily playing  and the other dog gave him a nip the dog has no marks and is ok apart from been shocked 

he didn’t say there was a continued attack 

also didn’t say it just ran over and bounced on him and nipped him 

 

they were playing and the older dog has given the younger dog a warning nip ( the op also states in later post his can be a bit exuberant ) 

 

so all this talk of kicking the dogs and such like has no relevance to this post he didn’t ask how to brake up dog or what to do if they are fighting 

he asked about his dog not been his normal self and as pointed out it’s just a bit of shock 

and from the op saying they have seen each other since and been fine it’s obvious the warning nip has done it’s intended and his dog has learnt from it 

 

 

The title of the thread is “Dog attacked”... 🙄

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7 hours ago, The Heron said:

No she is only just twelve months so like any youngster she is full of energy all that they were doing was playing and chasing each other my dog does this with some other dogs when she meets them. 

er....?  sounds like ....er...not in control?

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2 hours ago, WalkedUp said:

The title of the thread is “Dog attacked”... 🙄

And in my post I pointed out he didn’t say it was a continued attack  and they were already playing and it was a nip by the op own words And it wasn’t  just a ran over and got attacked  

I stated he didn’t ask for advice on how to break up a dog fight or anything he asked about his dogs behaviour after it and how to sort it 

he didn’t ask for  all the dog attack stories that he got  

so yeah cheers for the eye rolls emoji 

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Look like every one on here with a dog I love her to bits all I wanted was a bit of advice what I did not aim for was people falling out, I know people are passionate about their pets and working dogs but we are all in the same club. 

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On 11/05/2020 at 11:39, Retsdon said:

It sounds like your over familiar young dog got 'taught' its manners by a, possibly a bit crusty, older dog and came away a trifle chastened by the experience. 

This is how healthy normal dogs interact and I'm amazed that it should generate a page full of comments.

Thank god we got a sensible post in the end.  The dog learned a lesson and that’s it, if there are no marks then the other dog did a good job and the pup learned a lesson.  Ultimately you want your dog to interact and this will actually have done it good so just move on. 

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6 hours ago, al4x said:

Thank god we got a sensible post in the end.  The dog learned a lesson and that’s it, if there are no marks then the other dog did a good job and the pup learned a lesson.  Ultimately you want your dog to interact and this will actually have done it good so just move on. 

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On 11/05/2020 at 11:15, The Heron said:

my dog is very exuberant and can be a bit to much for some older dogs

One thing to remember is that older dogs - like some of us older people! - can be a bit stiff around the joints so if an older mutt has a touch of arthritis or little niggles of that kind and gets bounced on by an exuberant pup it can actually hurt, and then even the best natured of them will cut up a bit rough. Another thing to remember is that dogs don't have the benefit of a vocabulary. So in situations where we might start dropping F-bombs or banging plates, when dogs lose their temper they'll sometimes do their talking with their teeth! It doesn't mean that the dog is nasty, it just means that it's had enough of it and, by virtue of age and status (dogs always have a very clear pecking order) it's letting the other dog know what's what. But it's nothing to worry about - it's just how they do things.

The last point is that your dog might be taking it a bit hard because if it's been brought up from a pup as an 'only dog' it possibly does't understand exactly what happened. You'll find that dogs which are socialized with other dogs from an early age - fed together, exercised together, etc, etc, are far less sensitive to these kind of little incidents. Ninety percent of the the time it's water off a duck's back for them. But of course, they know the 'dog rules' of what's acceptable and what's not so when they overdo it and get chastised they know the score and don't take it to heart.

Just like kids really...

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This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. :whistling:

reindeer charlie.jpg

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2 hours ago, oowee said:

This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. :whistling:

reindeer charlie.jpg

He's a handsome little chap, isn't he?!

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On 11/05/2020 at 11:52, WalkedUp said:

It depends upon the severity and reasonableness of the lesson. If a dog gets bitten it has gone too far IMO. 
 

My 14 week old pup had its ear torn in two by a friend’s older dog that it simply walked past. That dog is now dead.

Whilst a fat unaccompanied Labrador attacked (bounded into twice, jumping up) my pregnant wife and her elderly aunt whilst we were walking on a deserted beach near her aunt’s home in Scotland, knocking the aunt over (she is also sadly deceased now). I was carrying my oldest two sons and so had no hands free so had to command the dogs to “have it”. The Labrador was ripped to shreds, it was quite sickening to see the ferocity in my dogs and the skin torn from the flesh before they listened to the command to “halt”. The lab was howling in pain, the poor thing it wasn’t the dog’s fault that it had been badly trained. The owners probably thought it was a cheeky little handful and loves attention jumping up. It could have seriously injured someone. I had to send my dogs into the sea a few times to get the blood off them and was very unhappy they had been forced to be aggressive. 

Not sure how you train dogs "to have it"?..........well I am really.

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8 hours ago, old man said:

Not sure how you train dogs "to have it"?..........well I am really.

No training, I suppose it’s a mixture of the dogs’ instinct from the situation, a reaction the the intonation and any vocal command breaking the “heel” command. I use “relax” as a command when I’ve finished training / heeling. I use “push” when I want to flush from point etc. The dogs don’t understand the meaning of the word but it’s partly the action of giving the command allows them to jump into action. 

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My bitch is German and my dog is mixed. According to some of the breeders and the  old books / cuttings in old European working trials to test gameness and heart a Weimeraner was expected to A. kill a penned feral cat / fox and B. react positively to a unknown person. I have trained this out of them, these two have grown up with cats and plenty of socialisation. But generations of breeding and instinct are in there, same as the ability to point...

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On 13/05/2020 at 18:29, oowee said:

This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. 

reindeer charlie.jpg

Christ on a bike..... bit off topic here but every time I see a cocker now (forgive me if its a field spaniel or sprocker) it always seems to have some resemblance to my late girl I lost last year. She was the same chocolate brown with the bit of quiff on the head and had them same splayed rear legs when sitting down.... I often thought when she was young that she had hip bother or it was the slippy wooden floor she was trying to sit on in the house but turns out some of them just prefer to put their whole backside on the ground.

That's one handsome fella, shame my wife is adamant that the next dog will be a Labrador.

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Great looking dog oowee.

Rob85, get a Spaniel.

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Just to give some context of 99.9999% of their interactions are complete indifference to other dogs - as per picture. I rarely bother to get pictures of them in backs of land rovers or trailers etc (this one was taken for the juxtaposition of the grouse in the trailer behind). But dogs need to know how to behave and be calm even if being innocently climbed all over etc. Obviously if they or my family are being attacked then gloves off, which is great - it’s what they are bred to do.  

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On 13/05/2020 at 18:29, oowee said:

This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. 

reindeer charlie.jpg

Check them out for splayed back legs on my old girl, she was 4 in this picture trying to work out why Scooby wasn't talking back....She was also hell for belly crawling too for some reason. Maybe just liked a bit of yoga!

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Looks like the two dogs could be siblings. :good:

I cannot imagine scooby lasted very long. 

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A 12 month old PUP off a lead playing with another dog, the mature dog puts the pup in its place. What next, the pups sulking. 

 

 

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