amateur Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 My daughter snapped this perched on the windowsill of her suburban office. Can anyone id it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 At a guess, a mistle thrush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I’d go with a perigrine , wings are the right colour , markings to the body and head look right ..👍 Edited June 16, 2020 by moose man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Walker570 said: At a guess, a mistle thrush It looks a bit big for a thrush. I've never seen a peregrine round here, but I suppose, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Yes, go with that but a peregrin with a small morsel in it's mouth looks like a snail shell, that led me to the mistle thrush idea. Could be a male sparrow hawk turned vegetarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, amateur said: It looks a bit big for a thrush. I've never seen a peregrine round here, but I suppose, why not? There’s a few about in Kent mate , Seen a few around Canterbury Cathedral .. 10 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Yes, go with that but a peregrin with a small morsel in it's mouth looks like a snail shell, that led me to the mistle thrush idea. Could be a male sparrow hawk turned vegetarian. The chest markings are wrong for the sparrow hawk , they have a more horizontal marking rather than the vertical ones of the (juvenile) perigrine .. Edited June 16, 2020 by moose man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moor man Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 +1 for peregrine, looks like a juvenile to me. Moustachial strip clearly visible. Nice one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Peregrine ... black markings under the eye are the giveaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Peregrine 🖒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I sent the team's id to my daughter, who replied "Oh, I know. They were introduced to control the pigeon population around the building" !!!!!! I had no idea Edited June 16, 2020 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Peregrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) young Peregrine stripes go vertical first year bird then moult out second year and stripes go horizontal Same with gosshawk and sparrowhawk Edited June 17, 2020 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 18 hours ago, amateur said: I sent the team's id to my daughter, who replied "Oh, I know. They were introduced to control the pigeon population around the building" !!!!!! I had no idea I was going to say that the setting looked familiar - seen it on a program "Iolo Williams ......." where he talked about this - is it taken in Wales somewhere?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, discobob said: I was going to say that the setting looked familiar - seen it on a program "Iolo Williams ......." where he talked about this - is it taken in Wales somewhere?? No! Deepest London suburbia at Marlowe House, Sidcup Edited June 17, 2020 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 As Rimfire has said, it is a juvenile Peregrine Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, amateur said: No! Deepest London suburbia in Sidcup Marlow house? Amazed and delighted to hear you can see peregrines around there now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Just now, treetree said: Marlow house? Amazed and delighted to hear you can see peregrines around there now Yes, I was astonished too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 16/06/2020 at 18:04, Walker570 said: At a guess, a mistle thrush specsavers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: specsavers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, amateur said: No! Deepest London suburbia at Marlowe House, Sidcup I know that very well. Lived 5mins walk from there for a few years [moved away 20yrs ago] and I'm sure peregrines were seen there then, although I never saw any. My ex still lives there and regularly sees sparrowhawks in her garden, surrounded by feathers and munching on a kill 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, JKD said: I know that very well. Lived 5mins walk from there for a few years [moved away 20yrs ago] and I'm sure peregrines were seen there then, although I never saw any. My ex still lives there and regularly sees sparrowhawks in her garden, surrounded by feathers and munching on a kill 😁 I'd imagine theres enough pigeons around to support them, duck off Foots Cray meadows and the Glade. Ha, that's taken me back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, treetree said: I'd imagine theres enough pigeons around to support them, duck off Foots Cray meadows and the Glade. Ha, that's taken me back! Blimey, me too. That whole area is my old 'manor' so to speak, spent the first 19 years of my life in that general area 😊 Lots of feral and wood pigeons in that area to feed many a raptor. Used to fish for the beautiful rudd in the Glade, and was known to have the odd dabble in the river Cray in the meadows 😀 Caught my biggest ever roach in the 'lake',,,, 1 lb 14 oz 😀 Used to know just about every blade of grass and tree there,,,, loved the place 🙂 Still drive past it regularly. Edited June 18, 2020 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) North Cray meadows now overrun by those damned ring necked parakeets. I wonder if a peregrine would take one of those? Edited June 18, 2020 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, amateur said: North Cray meadows now overrun by those damned ring necked parakeets. I wonder if a peregrine would take one of those? Are they still there ? They first appeared many years ago and gathered mainly in that double line of trees just below the upper car park. Was told very recently that they don't frequent there much now 🤔 'orrible noisy screechy things 😡 I think they would be too fast for a peregrine, but hope I'm wrong 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 They are all over this area. I haven't been on the meadows yet this year, but they were certainly there last year when we took our youngest grand-daughters there for a picnic last year. I spent my late teens in North Cray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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