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its my understsanding that all pickups are classed as N1 commercial vehical:
30mph in built up areas, 
50mph on single 
60mph on duel carriageways. 

Motorway speeds are the same as cars, unless towing a trailer, which lowers it to 60mph.

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I did a "specialist" driving course with work because lads kept "parking" them on their roof... The instructor knew of no changes in vehicle speeds... Hence I have always driven at normal speeds on roads in both my personal pickup and my works sign written one. 

From Parkers: https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/advice/speed-limits/

 

Speed limits for pickups

Most pickups count as dual-purpose vehicles, and can be driven as quickly as a car.

But do check their unladen weight before making any assumptions. For some high-spec pickups this will be greater than 2,040kg, making them the subject to the same rules as regular vans.

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11 hours ago, KronKron said:

its my understsanding that all pickups are classed as N1 commercial vehical:
30mph in built up areas, 
50mph on single 
60mph on duel carriageways. 

Motorway speeds are the same as cars, unless towing a trailer, which lowers it to 60mph.

I believe this is correct and automatic speed cameras work from dual data base which references vehicle class , N1 being commercial and therefore lower speed limits.
If the same vehicle was first registered as M1 private not N1 commercial then normal speed limits apply. Problem here is that normal road tax is applicable which may be higher than commercial @ £265.

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Im on my fourth Navara, 3 x 2.5 and noe 3.0 V6. I have always driven them assuming car speed limits and never had a fine. My daily commute involves a 50 mile round trip along a dual carriageway (non motorway) with average speed cameras for 30 miles of this. I set the cruise control at 78mph on the dash (GPS app on phone says this 73MPH) and never been fined.

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On 24/07/2020 at 20:34, flippermaj said:

Hi Ross,

have you been up and down the a9 under the average speed cameras at more than 50 ish?

 

Yes , I'm up and down to Aviemore practicing clays a far bit and never received a fine. I go 70mph in the dual sections and 60mph in the single carriageway. The 3.0l hilux struggles to do over 70 anyway! 🤣. I'm the same in the works wagon. 

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It's who registers the vehicle in the first instance I believe. If you are a company VAT etc then twin cabs get N1 category and same rules as for vans Ie speed restricted on non-motorways ie 50mph single carriageway or 60mph dual carriageway. If you are an individual and not VAT reg. then you get M1 and can drive as a car. Speed cameras differentiate - some of my colleagues got caught when we had to get 1,000 hired twin cabs to the military a few years ago. Confusing to see one going passed you at 70+ when you are sure you cannot exceed 60.

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So from this thread it all depends who registered the pick up 1st?

 

2 exactly the same spec and model pick ups could have a different speed limit?

Makes it more complicated buying a 2nd hand pick up

 

Must admit I just thought it was purely down to the wieght wether Dpv or Lgv

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On 23/07/2020 at 11:33, Mickeydredd said:

According to this site, only the Isuzu and L200 qualify as dual-purpose vehicles under the 2040kg weight restriction to be able to travel at the same speed limit as a car.

https://www.vansdirect.co.uk/pickup-truck-speed-limits

 

This is correct for all current model vehicles but you need to check for older models. I've got a mark 7 Hilux double cab & it's less than 2040kg kerb weight. 

i don't think that single cab pick ups are classed as dual-purpose & are subject to commercial vehicle speed limits. 

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