Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hello all, I’m in March, Cambridgeshire and in need of some rifle experience. I’ve got my FAC but only for a semi auto 12 bore. I need a bit more experience before I can apply for a variation and get a .22LR added to my ticket. unfortunately I don’t have anything to offer in return Shooting wise but I thought this was the best place to start and ask for help. many thanks, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Whose told you you need experience ? Are there no clubs nearby ? Do you have land permission ? Sorry for all the questions , but it seems strange to grant you a sec 1 shotgun, but not a .22lr . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I was told by the fao that I need more experience (someone to vouch for me) as I can’t prove my experience with a rifle due to the little experience I have being obtained in Canada. I’ve held a SGC for sometime which is why the section one shotgun was issued. it was agreed that once I’ve got a bit more experience it would be easier to apply for a variation than refuse my application and re apply. im not aware of any clubs apart from Cambridge GC which have only been to a few times. I do have a permission that was needing to be cleared by a different police authority but COVID came and stopped everything in its tracks. its all a bit long winded but hopefully that gives you an idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 This leaves you 2 options, as until that land is cleared for .22lr , you technically dont have a reason to possess the .22. A full membership at a club would give you that , but could involve a probationary period. Getting experience with a calibre is difficult if dont know anyone with that calibre to mentor you, and I must admit , Ive never heard anyone with good reason being asked to be mentored in .22lr. The strange one is , do you have land for the sec 1 shotgun ? As you also need a reason to possess that too, unless of course you are a member of a PSG club ? I would ask for some clarification from the FEO , do they want reason , or a mentor , before they grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I do have land for the sec 1 shotgun. Unfortunately the permission for the .22 is under Lincolnshire police and seemed to cause a headache all round. Thanks for the replies Rewulf. It’s much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Percy78 said: I do have land for the sec 1 shotgun. Unfortunately the permission for the .22 is under Lincolnshire police and seemed to cause a headache all round. Thanks for the replies Rewulf. It’s much appreciated! No problem , push them to get that land cleared, and if all else fails PM me , and Ill either mentor you , or put you in one of my clubs to get your 'reason' while you wait for them to get their act together. I know its a trek to Notts, but the best I can offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 What about fac air as a way of getting a foot in the door and being able to clear some pests. Push the force to clear the land then you have a reason to possess a .22 LR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rewulf said: No problem , push them to get that land cleared, and if all else fails PM me , and Ill either mentor you , or put you in one of my clubs to get your 'reason' while you wait for them to get their act together. I know its a trek to Notts, but the best I can offer That’s a fantastic offer and very much appreciated! 8 minutes ago, figgy said: What about fac air as a way of getting a foot in the door and being able to clear some pests. Push the force to clear the land then you have a reason to possess a .22 LR. Thanks figgy. I’ll certainly look into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) Some will grant fac air rather than powder burners. A nice .25 cal air rifle can do all you would likely do with a .22 lr Great offer from Rewulf, PW at its best. Edited August 11, 2020 by figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, figgy said: Some will grant fac air rather than powder burners. A nice .25 cal air rifle can do all you would likely do with a .22 lr Great offer from Rewulf, PW at its best. I’ve never even given that avenue any thought. It’s something I will definitely investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Percy78 said: I’ve never even given that avenue any thought. It’s something I will definitely investigate. The only issue with that is the land will still need clearing, the FEO will look at FAC air as only slightly less dangerous than .22lr. Dont forget , some FAC air guns are 100 ft lb , and you dont get to specify on the application that its only such and such power. If theres a problem clearing one , if wont make a huge difference clearing another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rewulf said: The only issue with that is the land will still need clearing, the FEO will look at FAC air as only slightly less dangerous than .22lr. Dont forget , some FAC air guns are 100 ft lb , and you dont get to specify on the application that its only such and such power. If theres a problem clearing one , if wont make a huge difference clearing another. Good point! I think my first job should be chasing up the land being cleared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Done this before - couple of hours with an experience gun then a note to the FEO giving an opinion on the suitability of the applicant. Quite happy to do it again if you need but I'm in Bucks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: Done this before - couple of hours with an experience gun then a note to the FEO giving an opinion on the suitability of the applicant. Quite happy to do it again if you need but I'm in Bucks . That’s incredibly kind of you bruno22rf. I just may take you up on that offer at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I can’t help with the issue you are trying to resolve but just wanted to say it’s fantastic to see the people membership offering up options and help! Well done lads 👏🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Percy78 said: Hello all, I’m in March, Cambridgeshire and in need of some rifle experience. I’ve got my FAC but only for a semi auto 12 bore. I need a bit more experience before I can apply for a variation and get a .22LR added to my ticket. unfortunately I don’t have anything to offer in return Shooting wise but I thought this was the best place to start and ask for help. many thanks, Paul. There is a rifle and pistol club next door to you at Mepal. Its called Isle Target Sports Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy78 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, la bala said: There is a rifle and pistol club next door to you at Mepal. Its called Isle Target Sports Club. Thank you 👍🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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