The Book of Tresspass.

[NatureBoy]

Anyone else picked up on it? It's the title of a new book from Nick Hayes. He and Guy Shrubsoule (author of Who Owns England) got a campaign going for right to roam in England. Of cause Avery and Packham jumped on and are backing it. I am surprised so little has been made in MSM of Trespass becoming criminal rather than civil offence in next two weeks. . . Good on Richard Negus (Shooting times jurno) for tackling them and offering to take them out and show them why open right to roam a bad idea and poss set up a public debate to. We certainly got lot of real shoot/conservation we can show them that would be threatened here in Suffolk and plenty of folk with hands on knowledge and real experience prepared to talk about it.

 

Also if anyone interested. Jimmy Doughty's new prog, Can Jimmy Save The Bees C4 Saturaday 8oc will be showing  local farm/shoot/conservation work there in Suffolk that's helping not only bees but all wildlife! May even see/hear a turtle dove. 👍                NB

[Mice!]

First I've heard of the change from civil to criminal. 

While Packham and co are happy to back the book they wouldn't be happy if people just went and trampled through any nature reserves,  they'll just be wanting folk to walk through shoots and moors to disturb any shooting activity. 

[London Best]

Trespass becoming a criminal offence sounds good news to me.

[Lloyd90]

4 hours ago, London Best said:

Trespass becoming a criminal offence sounds good news to me.

It’s only good if the Police bother to enforce it. 
 

BASC et al. Need to be primed to take up the issue with Police and get hunt sabs prosecuted. 

[southeastpete]

2 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

It’s only good if the Police bother to enforce it. 
 

BASC et al. Need to be primed to take up the issue with Police and get hunt sabs prosecuted. 

Will that also mean prosecutions for when the hunt go through private property?

[Lloyd90]

30 minutes ago, southeastpete said:

Will that also mean prosecutions for when the hunt go through private property?

I’d hope so. 
 

The law is the law. Hunts that want it enforced must also abide by it themselves. 

[udderlyoffroad]

17 hours ago, London Best said:

Trespass becoming a criminal offence sounds good news to me.

 

19 hours ago, NatureBoy said:

I am surprised so little has been made in MSM of Trespass becoming criminal rather than civil offence in next two weeks. . .

 

I can find nothing on this other than a government consultation which closed in March.  Is my Googlefu failing this morning or are you possibly mistaken?

[NatureBoy]

That's why i flagged it up. As not herd nowt about it. Can't find it mentioned in his Double Down News campaign vid now either. Maybe it's been edited out?        NB

[GingerCat]

There was talk of a bill, primarily to stop travellers setting up camps. Not heard anymore about it and not heard of it becoming law, especially without a parliamentary vote and sending it to the Lords for rubber stamping etc etc etc. Wishful thinking perhaps. 

[Cranfield]

I heard last year from our local Rural copper that there was some legislation going through regarding trespass, which was supposed to be to assist in dealing with coursers and others that wander around farmland looking for their "dawgs".
The current laws regarding coursing require the possession of a dead hare, or evidence of the possession of a dead hare, to get a conviction.

I do recall two young coppers explaining to me that the 4x4 they stopped contained "no evidence of coursing".
It did contain three blokes , three lurchers, was seen on private land, but apparently they were just walking their dogs.
They were unable to explain what "evidence" (apart from a dead hare) was lacking.