Harry136 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Hi, just started researching for a house extension, I’ve noticed that on a lot of extensions the ridge line is about a foot lower than the original building even though there is no gradient. Any reason why this is done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Yeah so it looks like an extension . Same with the walls .they like them set back a foot from the original .again so it doesn't look part of the original build .(don't understand it myself ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Is that a council/ planning regulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartyboy Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Yeah so it looks like an extension . Same with the walls .they like them set back a foot from the original .again so it doesn't look part of the original build .(don't understand it myself ) We had an extension and were told the above by the architect and planning. Reason was so that it didn’t look like a ‘tenement’ building so basically for aesthetic reasons and for us, the only way to get the extension approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartyboy Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Harry136 said: Is that a council/ planning regulation? Was a planning stipulation for us, not sure about a regulation. We never challenged it as it suited us. Advised by the architect that it needed done to pass council planning permission, but as I say we never bothered questioning it so not sure how it stands if it is not what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 We've just been advised the same by our planning department. Really annoying because we have to lose 2 ft of interior space that we cant really afford to... it is in a set of "guidelines" for that read "slavishly followed" that have really only just come into use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 I’ve had this a few times with planning permission. Personally I think it’s stupid. Why not have an extension that looks like the original build rather than an add on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 It’s to do with massing and avoiding the appearance of “terracing”. Generally this will not be applied to large detached houses in huge grounds. If it is a semidetached house on a tight road then it is very important for the street scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_shooter Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 hours ago, MirokuMK70 said: We've just been advised the same by our planning department. Really annoying because we have to lose 2 ft of interior space that we cant really afford to... it is in a set of "guidelines" for that read "slavishly followed" that have really only just come into use. Is it possible to have the roof running the opposite way to the current building? This appears to be a way to counteract the planning issues and with no loss of hight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 hours ago, AVB said: Why not have an extension that looks like the original build rather than an add on. I questioned that when I had mine done (which is a fairly large stand alone with no others in the same style nearby). The answer was that the new part has to look 'subservient' to the original. That is what they are looking to see - and if they don't see what they want - simple - no permission. It is bizarre, but that is how the planning people like it - and what they like is what counts (not what you, the owner would like) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, WalkedUp said: It’s to do with massing and avoiding the appearance of “terracing”. Generally this will not be applied to large detached houses in huge grounds. If it is a semidetached house on a tight road then it is very important for the street scene. My experience is that it is applied in all circumstances regardless of the location and size of house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, AVB said: My experience is that it is applied in all circumstances regardless of the location and size of house. My only experience is this one (which is a fairly large stand alone with no others in the same style nearby) - but I suspect you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Harry136 said: Hi, just started researching for a house extension, I’ve noticed that on a lot of extensions the ridge line is about a foot lower than the original building even though there is no gradient. Any reason why this is done? There is a big chance you will not need Planning Permission for an extension as it will likely be automatically granted under Permitted Development. Check out the criteria on the interactive house on the Government Planning Portal. Link here https://interactive.planningportal.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, AVB said: My experience is that it is applied in all circumstances regardless of the location and size of house. Yes ours is a detached property Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 I'm sure my brothers was or is only a brick difference at the front and flush across the back, but has the same roof line all across, losing a foot front and back is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 It's pretty common but not applied everywhere. I've known planners ask for extensions to be stepped back and down but have let it go after pressure from architects. I've also known it to be a condition of planning and for it to be enforced. Each case will be different and it could be as simple as asking them to allow it as you want it. If they like the way you approach them and are in a good mood then they could just approve what you want. Whatever you do try not to get into an arguement about it, that never goes well. Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 11 hours ago, AVB said: My experience is that it is applied in all circumstances regardless of the location and size of house. You need a stronger architect! Some of the extensions we have done on detached properties have been 200-300% of the original house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 I had mine passed flush with the rest of the building. My architect said if they want a step to take it forward 😁. Mine was passed 3-4 years ago . its silly making it look like an extension but normal practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Mine had to have this stupid step back and slightly lower roof. Both my neighbours 1 attached and the other detached didn't have to do it. Planning insisted on it or it was a no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, scobydog said: Mine had to have this stupid step back and slightly lower roof. Both my neighbours 1 attached and the other detached didn't have to do it. Planning insisted on it or it was a no go. Change the type of biscuit you offer with tea. Chocolate hobnobs are probably what you need, maybe even Club biscuits - or even McVities Gold Bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Don't understand the post John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, scobydog said: Don't understand the post John. Sorry, it was entirely tongue in cheek joke. Just as when the FEO visits, a satisfactory outcome is helped by tea and biscuits very often. I weas simply joking that matbe you had not used a sufficiently popular biscuit. Nothing more sinister than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Change the type of biscuit you offer with tea. Chocolate hobnobs are probably what you need, maybe even Club biscuits - or even McVities Gold Bar. sitting on top of an envelope with some nice crisp £20 notes to aid the digestion of said biscuits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Didn't think it was sinister at all bud, strangely the planning people here never even visited the site. The details were passed to a private building control company and that was it. Only met the planning guy once at the council offices. Feo always gets choccy hobnobs by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, scobydog said: Feo always gets choccy hobnobs by the way. Good choice..😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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