AVB Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 Any advice on good pain relief patches. My shoulders are in bits. I’ve had a number of steroid injections which have limited benefit and spent a fortune on physio which also has limited benefit. They are giving me grief during the night so looking for something I can slap on and hopefully help me sleep. Normal anti-inflammatories or painkillers aren’t touching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy trigger Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 ask your doctor for some Butec transdermal patches, you use them 1 weekly, found them good for my aches and pains, past them now, on Fentanyl 72 hour ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) I had these earlier this year, had to shave my chest to get them on lol. I've got nerve damage on my chest and they didn't make a blind bit of difference, subsequently the next step is steroid injections if and when I can go to the hospital. Might be worth asking your GP if he will prescribe you a muscle relaxant? Edit, they were called something like lanocain, can't for the life of me remember exactly nor find the box. I was told there was no guarantee they would work anyway. Edited November 2, 2020 by Farmboy91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I feel sorry for you mate I have dislocated both my shoulders and am riddled with arthritis in them tried fentanyl patches which is morphine for a better word of it the only think I find helps is do some over head exercises with a pulley rig I have made up and cbd oil last thing of a night all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I've got arthritis in my right knee and shoulder, and asked a similar question recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, itchy trigger said: ask your doctor for some Butec transdermal patches, you use them 1 weekly, found them good for my aches and pains, past them now, on Fentanyl 72 hour ones Good choice. Butec is a ‘ controlled’ medication and can only be prescribed by a GP. We use them at work with very positive results for most people. Get good advice as they could impede your driving is used incorrectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 I have just talked to the doctor today about a second frozen shoulder, I had the left operated on this is the right shoulder. This is good stuff "Fenbid Forte 10% gel" It's a gel that hits the spot. Had stuff from the chemist but it's a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Thanks all. I spoke to the doctor’s today to ask for the Butec patches but receptionist said not wasn’t urgent and Doctor will call me when he gets time. Probably in 2021! It’s the night and early morning that are the worse. I go to the gym daily (or try to) and the exercises the physio and Personal Trainer have come up with help but obviously that wears off during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 This is my list of " happy pills" . For arthritis. Targinact twice a day, amytryptilline once a day. Diazepam, tramadol, paracetamol, cream as needed. Anti TNF injection once a week. Oh, plus the Blood Pressure and Stations. Apart from that, I am great. Should be Statins not Stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 02/11/2020 at 20:06, harrycatcat1 said: I have just talked to the doctor today about a second frozen shoulder, I had the left operated on this is the right shoulder. This is good stuff "Fenbid Forte 10% gel" It's a gel that hits the spot. Had stuff from the chemist but it's a waste of time. Strange, but I have used this, and it had no effect on easing the pain whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 please go easy/ be careful on the patches your body gets used to it and needs more a bit like druggies harder drugs needed ive been on fentanyl up to 180mgh didnt help too much with pain made you feel a bit livelier however it builds up in your liver a hot day your pours open you absorb more early season got a sweat on going out on the salt marsh a few hours later i didnt think i could get back couldnt sleep walking around the caravan site for hours shaking like a junkie calmed down drove home two days early as was in trouble removed patches day two withdrawals shaking sweating acing cramps had to go back on and wean off it took me a year to get over the effects of fentanyl and yet a gp still wants me to go back on them inc antidepressants for pain relief and when i throw a few expletives into him have a look at my bloody notes been there done that many times in the last ten years inc lidocaine infusions only lasted 3 weeks and all hell broke loose again they then recommend the pain clinic at uhc again in January for the third time given all else going on no app yet i take paracetamol to take the edge off every day however destroys your stomach must take with food i have fibromyalgia and neuropathy my experience may not be the same for someone with a localized pain be conscious of what you are taking and how it affects you never wean off one and on to another stop for a month or two and then start another then you will know the ups and downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 hours ago, steve_b_wales said: Strange, but I have used this, and it had no effect on easing the pain whatsoever. Really? It just goes to show that not all things suit everyone. I lather it on the top of my shoulder and I get a good night's sleep. If I don't I am tossing and turning during the night. The doctor wanted to examine me and have a scan with a view to having it operated on but I declined his offer in this climate of covid. To the OP I have not had any experience of patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: Really? It just goes to show that not all things suit everyone. I lather it on the top of my shoulder and I get a good night's sleep. If I don't I am tossing and turning during the night. The doctor wanted to examine me and have a scan with a view to having it operated on but I declined his offer in this climate of covid. To the OP I have not had any experience of patches. I agree. Not all things work for all people. I gave a tube of this to my elderly mother, and she says it 'helps' ease the pain. The only answer for me, regarding my arthritic knee, is a replacement, which doesn't bother me, but, I would need a long time off work to recover, and I cannot afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 I've been on Tramadol for over 12 years, apart from one foray into MST Morphine and Oromorph, which nearly killed me. 6 weekes ago, I bought a bottle of CBD oil with 20% Hydroxu Quinone, it's not cheap, but in that time I've only had 3 Tramadol. https://naturallynorthcbd.co.uk/product/canna-pharma-cbd-hq-oil-drops-2000mg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 05/11/2020 at 16:55, kernel gadaffi said: I've been on Tramadol for over 12 years, apart from one foray into MST Morphine and Oromorph, which nearly killed me. 6 weekes ago, I bought a bottle of CBD oil with 20% Hydroxu Quinone, it's not cheap, but in that time I've only had 3 Tramadol. https://naturallynorthcbd.co.uk/product/canna-pharma-cbd-hq-oil-drops-2000mg/ just gone down the same route as you fibromyalgia and neuropathy cbd brothers purple i can move easier less tired and sleep better however its early days still have flareups not as vicious last a day rather than a week or more its looking promising so far may be other strains / blends may work better i have tried everything else from gp found to be lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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