US Election Results!

[clangerman]

3 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

Do you honestly  know what percentage  of black Americans  voted for trump 

i’m sure the percentage will appear at some point 

[Scully]

58 minutes ago, bavarianbrit said:

I do not care what you are, but how you are is the important point for me.

👍

[islandgun]

Trump's refusal to accept the vote reminds me of the SNP and the anti brexiteers that demand another shot...I also doubt they would like the comparison ..🙃

[Scully]

1 minute ago, islandgun said:

Trump's refusal to accept the vote reminds me of the SNP and the anti brexiteers that demand another shot...I also doubt they would like the comparison ..🙃

That’s a fair point. 👍

[grrclark]

29 minutes ago, islandgun said:

Trump's refusal to accept the vote reminds me of the SNP and the anti brexiteers that demand another shot...I also doubt they would like the comparison ..🙃

Ironically the SNP were comparing unionists to Trump in that they (unionists) wished to deny democracy by refusing to accede to a second independence referendum.  I find that really quite bizarre as since having the first one they have denied the outcome and claimed unfairness and they should get a second go.

[Newbie to this]

1 hour ago, clangerman said:

i’m sure the percentage will appear at some point 

There was me thinking voting was anonymous

 

 

This one made me chuckle 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Newbie to this

[ditchman]

How "left wing" is carmel harris ??

[TIGHTCHOKE]

5 minutes ago, ditchman said:

How "left wing" is carmel harris ??

Is  she Kamala's sister?

[chrisjpainter]

1 hour ago, ditchman said:

How "left wing" is Kamala Harris ??

She's an interesting one and is probably the far better candidate than Biden! She is by no means a raving lefty, which probably cost her in the early primaries when the USS Bernie Sanders was sweeping away all before it. She was criticised by the left of the party for being tough on crime. As AG in California she defended the death penalty in court. There's also a nervousness amongst the BLM crazies that she's too close to cops. She's also keen on prosecuting across borders and gained a bit of a reputation in California for going hard after drug cartels whenever she could. That said, she's pretty fiercely defensive of immigrants and her beliefs on guns and gun ownership don't endear her to the right. She's obviously pro-choice, but was also involved in a lawsuit brought by a trans inmate in a male Californian jail. He/she sued the state because the prison wasn't allowing him/her to have surgery and the courts agreed with him. As California AG, Harris appealed against the ruling, saying there was no evidence his life was in danger and thus didn't warrant the state spending money on the surgery.

Given the state of the country, she's in a good position to at least try and heal the rift. She will at least be appealing to both the moderate right and moderate left. The far left and far right equally dislike her, so she's uniting them already!

Edited November 8, 2020 by chrisjpainter

[Newbie to this]

8 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said:

She's an interesting one and is probably the far better candidate than Biden! She is by no means a raving lefty, which probably cost her in the early primaries when the USS Bernie Sanders was sweeping away all before it. She was criticised by the left of the party for being tough on crime. As AG in California she defended the death penalty in court. There's also a nervousness amongst the BLM crazies that she's too close to cops. She's also keen on prosecuting across borders and gained a bit of a reputation in California for going hard after drug cartels whenever she could. That said, she's pretty fiercely defensive of immigrants and her beliefs on guns and gun ownership don't endear her to the right. She's obviously pro-choice, but was also involved a lawsuit brought by a trans inmate in a male Californian jail. He/she sued the state because the prison wasn't allowing him/her to have surgery and the courts agreed with him. As California AG, Harris appealed against the ruling, saying there was no evidence his life was in danger and thus didn't warrant the state spending money on the surgery.

Given the state of the country and she's in a good position to at least try and heal the rift. She will at least be appealing to both the moderate right and moderate left. The far left and far right equally dislike her, so she's uniting them already!

Going by that, she sounds like a good choice for president. I must admit I know nothing of her at all.

[Konor]

2 hours ago, islandgun said:

Trump's refusal to accept the vote reminds me of the SNP and the anti brexiteers that demand another shot...I also doubt they would like the comparison ..🙃

A poor comparison and out of step with the majority of native Scots thinking.

Edited November 8, 2020 by Konor

[oowee]

Great speech from Biden last night and now saying all the right things re climate change. After 4 years of Neanderthal politics we have a glimmer of hope. 

[Konor]

1 minute ago, oowee said:

Great speech from Biden last night and now saying all the right things re climate change. After 4 years of Neanderthal politics we have a glimmer of hope. 

A welcome contrast

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, oowee said:

Great speech from Biden last night and now saying all the right things re climate change. After 4 years of Neanderthal politics we have a glimmer of hope. 

👏👏👏

[NoBodyImportant]

You guys really need to stop listening to liberals media.  The US has reduced its emissions 8% under Trump all while expanded production. https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/president-trump-delivering-promise-protect-our-nations-air

The Paris treaty had the USA paying India and China trillions of dollars to reduce their emissions but they where not reducing them.  Buying green energy credits don’t reduce emissions.   It is literally paying a fine.  If your produce 100 tons of CO2 you can’t just buy 25tons of green credits and claim you only produces 75.  Trump actually reduce emissions.  

[NoBodyImportant]

3 hours ago, clangerman said:

i’m sure the percentage will appear at some point 

18%.  It’s was the highest minority vote for republicans in recent history.  Trump had record low black unemployment.  Raised income levels, raised black home ownership, record number of black owned business.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/11/06/trump-won-record-minority-support-yet-the-left-is-calling-it-racism/amp/

[Zapp]

34 minutes ago, Konor said:

A welcome contrast

This.  

[AVB]

1 hour ago, chrisjpainter said:

She's an interesting one and is probably the far better candidate than Biden! She is by no means a raving lefty, which probably cost her in the early primaries when the USS Bernie Sanders was sweeping away all before it. She was criticised by the left of the party for being tough on crime. As AG in California she defended the death penalty in court. There's also a nervousness amongst the BLM crazies that she's too close to cops. She's also keen on prosecuting across borders and gained a bit of a reputation in California for going hard after drug cartels whenever she could. That said, she's pretty fiercely defensive of immigrants and her beliefs on guns and gun ownership don't endear her to the right. She's obviously pro-choice, but was also involved in a lawsuit brought by a trans inmate in a male Californian jail. He/she sued the state because the prison wasn't allowing him/her to have surgery and the courts agreed with him. As California AG, Harris appealed against the ruling, saying there was no evidence his life was in danger and thus didn't warrant the state spending money on the surgery.

Given the state of the country, she's in a good position to at least try and heal the rift. She will at least be appealing to both the moderate right and moderate left. The far left and far right equally dislike her, so she's uniting them already!

Not sure about this. She has gone on record as saying she wants to be the most left wing president ever. She also was close to BLM and wanted to defund the police although this has now been toned down to ‘reform the police’. I feel at heart she is very left but realises that isn’t electable. 

[scobydog]

It will be interesting to see if the democrats implode aka the Labour party, the far left are not great friends of dirty grandpa joe. 

S

[JohnfromUK]

10 minutes ago, AVB said:

I feel at heart she is very left but realises that isn’t electable. 

Nail on the head

[oowee]

1 hour ago, NoBodyImportant said:

You guys really need to stop listening to liberals media.  The US has reduced its emissions 8% under Trump all while expanded production. https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/president-trump-delivering-promise-protect-our-nations-air

The Paris treaty had the USA paying India and China trillions of dollars to reduce their emissions but they where not reducing them.  Buying green energy credits don’t reduce emissions.   It is literally paying a fine.  If your produce 100 tons of CO2 you can’t just buy 25tons of green credits and claim you only produces 75.  Trump actually reduce emissions.  

Those that produce the most co2 should pay the highest price, but the US isn't.

But when we asked the White House for support for Trump’s claim that the U.S. “pays billions of dollars” for the Paris Agreement while China, Russia and India have paid and will pay “nothing,” White House spokesman Steven Cheung specifically referred us to the Green Climate Fund.

The U.S. has promised to contribute $3 billion to this fund, but as of March 3 it has contributed only $1 billion. The fund’s website states that the U.S. contribution is “[s]ubject to the availability of funds.”

Even if the U.S. does provide $3 billion to this fund, it still wouldn’t have contributed the most on a per-capita basis. Sweden has already contributed $581 million, which is nearly $60 per person — the largest per-capita contribution of any country. And Luxembourg has pledged, but not fully contributed, nearly $94 per person, which would make it the largest. In fact, the U.S. ranked 11th in its pledged contribution per capita, after a number of European countries and Japan.

[Yellow Bear]

30 minutes ago, AVB said:

Not sure about this. She has gone on record as saying she wants to be the most left wing president ever. She also was close to BLM and wanted to defund the police although this has now been toned down to ‘reform the police’. I feel at heart she is very left but realises that isn’t electable. 

This - and tying her colours to the Biden mast was the only way she would get elected.  I doubt Biden will last the term.

We will see what US business  feels about the result tomorrow.

[yod dropper]

China must be happy that Trump has gone.

On climate alone they opened the same number of coal fired power stations that the EU closed last year such is the ridiculous deal that Obama signed and Trump repealed, still more money in the pot to control it's people (they are now starting on inner Mongolia) and illegally claiming the South China Sea. What a result....

[12gauge82]

4 hours ago, oowee said:

Great speech from Biden last night and now saying all the right things re climate change. After 4 years of Neanderthal politics we have a glimmer of hope. 

It was nice to hear a more sensible tone, although it's just the usual empty promises and meaningless rhetoric that all politicians speak. Was anything drastically better or worse under trump vs Obama, other than the hot air coming out of their mouths, will anything meaningful be any different under Biden, I doubt it. 

[WalkedUp]

32 minutes ago, yod dropper said:

China must be happy that Trump has gone.

On climate alone they opened the same number of coal fired power stations that the EU closed last year such is the ridiculous deal that Obama signed and Trump repealed, still more money in the pot to control it's people (they are now starting on inner Mongolia) and illegally claiming the South China Sea. What a result....

Doubt it, Biden is not likely to be as isolationist as Trump. China has boomed as the world super power in the vacuum the USA left. Whilst he was a China basher he also gifted them the no.1 spot.