Mr grumpy Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, London Best said: Just sounds like a normal, proper 20 bore to me. Might we ask what make? I'd hazard a guess at a 70'/early80's beretta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mr grumpy said: I'd hazard a guess at a 70'/early80's beretta? S56E from'77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, wymberley said: S56E from'77. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, wymberley said: S56E from'77. Now, if I HAD to have an O/U, it would look like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, London Best said: Now, if I HAD to have an O/U, it would look like that! Cheers. I had to give up the Chapuis OU for the same reason (weight) as the other gun mentioned earlier and which was really upsetting. This one has made it easier to accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, figgy said: One of the nicest 20 over and u fees I've handled was the Browning Crown. Nephew has just bought one, but I haven’t seen it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Wait till you get a hold of it, the one I had in my hands was one of the nicest handling and balanced guns I've handled. Felt very much like a SO10 I had hold of. You won't want to give it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, figgy said: Wait till you get a hold of it, the one I had in my hands was one of the nicest handling and balanced guns I've handled. Felt very much like a SO10 I had hold of. You won't want to give it back. He’ll get it back, not keen on 20’s really. Will give it a whirl though, may take it on a syndicate day; he can’t really say no cos I know how much it cost......unlike his fiancé. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Ha ha good old blackmail 👍 6 hours ago, London Best said: Now, if I HAD to have an O/U, it would look like that! Take any over and under and have the pistol grip taken out, you have what you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, figgy said: Ha ha good old blackmail 👍 Take any over and under and have the pistol grip taken out, you have what you like. Sorry figgy, good try, but it would still be missing a trigger, weigh a pound and a half too much and removing a pistol grip rarely makes a stock look right, plus most are far too deep in the action to ever be considered elegant. IMO, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, London Best said: Sorry figgy, good try, but it would still be missing a trigger, weigh a pound and a half too much and removing a pistol grip rarely makes a stock look right, plus most are far too deep in the action to ever be considered elegant. IMO, of course. The most 'side by side like' over and under I know is the Merkel 303. Straight hand stock, double triggers, automatic safety, true sidelock, hand detachable locks, and weighs about 7 1/4 to 7 1/2 lbs, but with very central weight concentration making it feel fast and light. It is, however - very 'deep' in the action even by o/u standards. GThey are beautifully made and the smoothness of the opening and closing etc. is exceptional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Yes, VERY deep fugly action and far too heavily built. The only O/U’s I have ever used which were fun were McNab Highlanders in 28 gauge weighing 5lbs 14oz. The Beretta 20 bores are quite nice to use. A friend has a Chapuis which is nice enough. As a committed SxS man I won’t be buying any O/U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Browning make a nice looking straight stocked 20 bore OU. A mate had a nice one in 12 bore which I felt was spoiled by a Roach belly stock, which I’m not a fan of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 Perazzi do a nice one too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 I had a good season last year with this beretta/orvis uplander 20 bore ,around 6lb 2 oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Konor said: I had a good season last year with this beretta/orvis uplander 20 bore ,around 6lb 2 oz That is really nice How did you come across that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, button said: That is really nice How did you come across that? I bought it from Stewart at Glenluce Gunroom. I had barrelblacker reblue the barrels and lift a wee dent in the rib and stripped and reoiled the stock myself. I did so well with it last season that I bought a straight hand stocked 12 bore for this season but haven’t had the chance to try it out on game because of the Covid restrictions Edited November 15, 2020 by Konor Adding picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Very nice. Much like a mates I mentioned but yours has much nicer wood. B2G? B25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Scully said: Very nice. Much like a mates I mentioned but yours has much nicer wood. B2G? B25? No Scully it was made by Alex Dalgleish in Eaglesham just outside Glasgow using a Miroku action. I bought it in the last Holts sale £1500 including commission. It had a small crack in the stock behind the top tang so it was a bit of a gamble but Graham MacKinlay of Glasgow Gunmakers fixed it for me.The 20 bore was £750 in 2016 and the 12 bore was £1520 including commission. The 12 bore was a 60th or retirement present , I’m still working though ! When I spoke to Alex he reckoned on £10000 up to create a number 2 so I feel lucky Edited November 15, 2020 by Konor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Konor said: No Scully it was made by Alex Dalgleish in Eaglesham just outside Glasgow using a Miroku action. I bought it in the last Holts sale £1500 including commission. It had a small crack in the stock behind the top tang so it was a bit of a gamble but Graham MacKinlay of Glasgow Gunmakers fixed it for me.The 20 bore was £750 in 2016 and the 12 bore was £1520 including commission. The 12 bore was a 60th or retirement present , I’m still working though ! Very very nice. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scully said: Very very nice. 👍 Thanks when I pack in ,no plans for that happening,I’ll sell it on cheap to give someone else a bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Konor said: I bought it from Stewart at Glenluce Gunroom. I had barrelblacker reblue the barrels and lift a wee dent in the rib and stripped and reoiled the stock myself. I did so well with it last season that I bought a straight hand stocked 12 bore for this season but haven’t had the chance to try it out on game because of the Covid restrictions Lovely, well done to you for taking the risk, I would certainly say you have done well there I saw it myself but bottled it! Happy to PM you my details when you decide to let them go cheap😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, button said: Lovely, well done to you for taking the risk, I would certainly say you have done well there I saw it myself but bottled it! Happy to PM you my details when you decide to let them go cheap😉 Thanks button, I’m hoping that there will be a twenty year wait before they are on the market again. I may take them to the next Scottish pigeonwatch clay shoot and you could have a shot then though. Edited November 15, 2020 by Konor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 13/11/2020 at 19:19, farmer7 said: Is yours a field version? Does it take the same microcore pads as other Berettas. I have a couple of different sized ones from my 692 sporter. Thanks for that. I think on looks/style I'm leaning towards the CG but again difficult to ignore the Beretta! I'm limiting myself by price really, not many 32" 20 bores around at the £1000-£1100 mark. I would buy a 32" if it was an option but haven't seen any. Yeah just heading there! Thanks. Sent you a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Oh dear...it doesn’t weigh 6lb or less, have double triggers or a straight hand stock. Think I will muddle along with this old CG anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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