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So...found out this morning that the yard has been broken into AGAIN! Padlocks cut off and tin cladding peeled off sheds. The yard is up a long track with a house owned by us but let out half way along. There is one pinch point on the road where the installation of a security gate would make access a lot more difficult, however this would then put the house behind a locked gate, are the fire brigade locks online the industry standard way of allowing access?

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2 minutes ago, Diver One said:

I wouldn't have thought a padlock would be that much deterrent if some scrote wanted to get in. Bolt cutters or a cordless angle grinder with a "skinny disc": job done

I was going to build that gate myself and build the lock into a box to make access more difficult and noisy. If they want to get on they will, just got to make it difficult 

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As above, if you can get the keys it's worthless.

For the majority of incidents we could access most places, we were also taught how to open euro locks etc with minimal damage to doors and frames. If you deter the opportunistic thief with a lock, it's well worth it

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14 minutes ago, snow white said:

What’s the point of putting a fire brigade lock on when you can buy keys of eBay I brought some in summer for fishing lake locks .

Best would be a good quality combination lock

Point taken, didn't realise they were quite that common. 

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If you're putting the house behind a locked gate, how are the occupants going to enter/leave?

They might not be too keen on having to deal with a boxed padlock every time they want to pop out.

What about the postman, delivery drivers, tradesmen?

If you own the whole track (and no one else has a right of way along it) you'd be better off putting any gate just past the house, that way the occupants are not obstructed and any attempt to cut locks etc will be in view of the house. Possibly install cctv.

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2 hours ago, Wymondley said:

If you're putting the house behind a locked gate, how are the occupants going to enter/leave?

They might not be too keen on having to deal with a boxed padlock every time they want to pop out.

What about the postman, delivery drivers, tradesmen?

If you own the whole track (and no one else has a right of way along it) you'd be better off putting any gate just past the house, that way the occupants are not obstructed and any attempt to cut locks etc will be in view of the house. Possibly install cctv.

It would be open during the day as we have horse trainers, deliveries and 7 tractors in and out all the time. Past the house gives them too many other routes we would have to fence/gate etc. The house is owned by us and rented by someone linked to our business so they would have the key/code and would probably be quite happy to have an extra layer of security as they are very isolated.

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Seems like it is quite a simple fix then.

Get some extra decent gates installed, there will be a cost, but surely being more secure and not needing to keep calling on your insurance must be worth it.

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In discussion with FB for a large residential project in N Wales about an emergency second access to a housing estate. The gate is allowed to be chained and locked as they have the “master key to everything” - hydraulic force ⚒⛓🗝

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If the business has the use of a heavy duty forklift, put the large concrete blocks behind the gate.

A friend of ours has a business on an isolated lane and had his sturdy metal gates barged open and had trailers and equipment stolen. Only vehicle access to the site is via a narrow lane to the gates. He had the blocks delivered and no kit stolen since. He drops the blocks behind the gate before he leaves with just enough gap for him to squeeze out. Then he fastens the locks. They are known as ***** blocks in the trade.

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On 02/01/2021 at 15:22, WalkedUp said:

In discussion with FB for a large residential project in N Wales about an emergency second access to a housing estate. The gate is allowed to be chained and locked as they have the “master key to everything” - hydraulic force ⚒⛓🗝

Not the one in Mold is it??

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No it’s not, it’s a brownfield site in rural wales. Not in for planning yet, contentious as it’s greenbelt and outside of the established settlement boundary but it makes so much sense. There is a shortage of housing in the borough. We have a derelict eyesore of former heavy industrial buildings and can clear that to build over 200 houses, a nature reserve and community hall. But odds are against it due to not being near to a train station or regular bus route. Very little of north wales is! The policy is absurd. 

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We have a similar sized site happening in Mold. When we moved here 16 years ago we were on the very edge - now we are almost town center!! There are a few other sites that are earmarked as well. Looks like we will have to book appointments at the doctors & dentists 6 months in advance soon!!

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