AVB Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Can’t believe how much media is being dedicated to this. Personally I don’t give a ****. It’ happening many thousand miles away and will be forgotten about in a few days. Mind you at least it’s pushing covid off the front page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) I will be really gutted to see Trump go as president as his entertainment value is truly outstanding 😀😀😀 Edited January 7, 2021 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, The Heron said: I wonder what the title will be? 🤔 Last Tango for Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Speaking as a very non political person (though I must confess to being a bit of a trump fan) , I would have thought that if anyone was cheating, it was most likely to be trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 16 hours ago, Smokersmith said: Trump should be locked up for inciting violence. Beyond reason .... I know right ... Oh wait .... DC last year ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I know right ... Oh wait .... DC last year ... Absoluetly...a great post rewulf but of course those that eyes sometimes cannot see. Time will tell. I can tell you that what I am hearing from friends in the USA they have just had the best four years they have had for many years and certainly since the era of Obama and some of the southern border areas are the safest they have been for years. It is all very steeply downhill from now on with those four pictured above in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 hours ago, henry d said: The problem is you are actually making things up, you have no evidence whatsoever. It's just as much a possibility that they were killed by little green men in disguise! No, not making anything up any more than the fake news media do every day. Yes, it was not pretty but no person on here bar one or two is asking WHY???? There are so many questions not answered least of all...Did the BIG MAN get his 10% from the Chinese Government Agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, Walker570 said: No, not making anything up any more than the fake news media do every day. That makes it all ok then 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, henry d said: That makes it all ok then 🙄 Not the best counter argument Ive heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: I know right ... Oh wait .... DC last year ... 5 wrongs don't make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: 5 wrongs don't make a right. Maybe not , but it always strikes me that the same voices calling for impeachment, enquiries into Russkie interference, and supporting any and all dissidence against Trump, often with violent protests from the likes of antifa and BLM, are the same voices bleating now , because he and his more vehement supporters wont exit stage left quietly. What about 'Not my president !' and democratic politician ' sit ins ' ? What about 4 years of trying to remove him , using false allegations of collusion, sexual assault, and all manner of conspiracies without basis ? What about stirring up racial hatred, with countless deaths, egged on by democrats, and then placing the blame squarely on Trump ? There are issues with the way the election was conducted, but those are swept under the carpet in the rush to remove this thorn in the side of the establishment. 4 years of good economic progress in the US is about to come to an end. The main reason will be covid, but the media will blame Trump, and the poor performance of President Harris will be blamed on 'The Trump legacy' As the economic and racial slide continues, the left controlled media in the States has just been given its new chew toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Maybe not , but it always strikes me that the same voices calling for impeachment, enquiries into Russkie interference, and supporting any and all dissidence against Trump, often with violent protests from the likes of antifa and BLM, are the same voices bleating now , because he and his more vehement supporters wont exit stage left quietly. What about 'Not my president !' and democratic politician ' sit ins ' ? What about 4 years of trying to remove him , using false allegations of collusion, sexual assault, and all manner of conspiracies without basis ? What about stirring up racial hatred, with countless deaths, egged on by democrats, and then placing the blame squarely on Trump ? There are issues with the way the election was conducted, but those are swept under the carpet in the rush to remove this thorn in the side of the establishment. 4 years of good economic progress in the US is about to come to an end. The main reason will be covid, but the media will blame Trump, and the poor performance of President Harris will be blamed on 'The Trump legacy' As the economic and racial slide continues, the left controlled media in the States has just been given its new chew toy. Spot on. Trump made promises when he came in and he has kept them all to my understanding. He has made positive intervention in the volatile Middle East where Biden/Obama stirred the soup and paid the Iranians millions of dollars in cash. Name me one thing bad Trump has done for the working members of the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Name me one thing bad Trump has done for the working members of the USA. If you speak to people who actually live in the States, there is either praise or indifference to him. I think its very hard (covid aside) to factually tear him down. But thats not how it works, the media takes facts, twists then and regurgitates half truths and slander. In our ignorance , we believe it to be true, the talky box doesnt lie surely ? This is why you get people in this country who state , with total ignorance 'I hate Trump' without really knowing why...In effect , the media has told them to ! The proof will be in the pudding as it were, America best prepare itself for a pseudo socialist, woke ride for the next 4 years. They will be begging for a Trump style leader before the end of 2021 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: If you speak to people who actually live in the States, there is either praise or indifference to him. I think its very hard (covid aside) to factually tear him down. But thats not how it works, the media takes facts, twists then and regurgitates half truths and slander. In our ignorance , we believe it to be true, the talky box doesnt lie surely ? This is why you get people in this country who state , with total ignorance 'I hate Trump' without really knowing why...In effect , the media has told them to ! The proof will be in the pudding as it were, America best prepare itself for a pseudo socialist, woke ride for the next 4 years. They will be begging for a Trump style leader before the end of 2021 . Yep, again spot on. I would only change pseudo socialist to communist and only on comments from my American friends who say they had one in the Obama years and really do not want another. Biden is a Trojan Horse and will be out in less than two years leaving Kamala Harris as President. The plan is hatched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Biden is a Trojan Horse and will be out in less than two years leaving Kamala Harris as President. The plan is hatched. I reckon more like 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Spot on. Trump made promises when he came in and he has kept them all to my understanding. He has made positive intervention in the volatile Middle East where Biden/Obama stirred the soup and paid the Iranians millions of dollars in cash. Name me one thing bad Trump has done for the working members of the USA. That's a bit of a stretch! The Mexican wall, for example. His big, flagship promise. I don't altogether think he gets to say 'job done' for 30 miles of new fence! Even replacing 400 miles of existing fencing in four years is a fairly lamentable demonstration of fulfilling a promise on a border that's almost 2,000 miles long. How's this: 2.3 million lost their health insurance. That directly lead to the deaths of between 4,000 and 25,000 people. Or weren't they the right kind of Americans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: How's this: 2.3 million lost their health insurance. That directly lead to the deaths of between 4,000 and 25,000 people. Or weren't they the right kind of Americans? Why what kind of Americans were they ? Do you know ? And 'directly lead' ? Bit of a stretch isnt it ? Youll be saying he should be indicted for murder yet . So out of 2.3 million , 'somewhere between' (sounds REALLY precise) 4000 and 25000 died ? Theres more than that blow their brains out every year. Between NOT building the wall and personally (allegedly) murdering Americans, is that your best argument ? Jeez man , we were promised WW3 within months of him taking office, not to mention anyone not white and straight send to concentration camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Trump should have just campaigned for a second vote to overturn the result like the tainted Mr Second-Referendum of the Labour? party. What's wrong with not accepting the result and using every rule in and out of the book to try to reverse it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Hello, I see Priti Patel blamed trump for the riots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, chrisjpainter said: That's a bit of a stretch! The Mexican wall, for example. His big, flagship promise. I don't altogether think he gets to say 'job done' for 30 miles of new fence! Even replacing 400 miles of existing fencing in four years is a fairly lamentable demonstration of fulfilling a promise on a border that's almost 2,000 miles long. How's this: 2.3 million lost their health insurance. That directly lead to the deaths of between 4,000 and 25,000 people. Or weren't they the right kind of Americans? Ask folks who live on the border in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Why what kind of Americans were they ? Do you know ? And 'directly lead' ? Bit of a stretch isnt it ? Youll be saying he should be indicted for murder yet . So out of 2.3 million , 'somewhere between' (sounds REALLY precise) 4000 and 25000 died ? Theres more than that blow their brains out every year. Between NOT building the wall and personally (allegedly) murdering Americans, is that your best argument ? Jeez man , we were promised WW3 within months of him taking office, not to mention anyone not white and straight send to concentration camps. The research was done by Harvard University and presented here... Quantifying health coverage losses under Trump | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health How Much Has The Number of Uninsured Risen Since 2016 — And At What Cost To Health And Life? | Health Affairs Walker570 said Trump had kept all his promises. But it turns out, one of his biggest and loudest promises was left almost completely unfulfilled. He also promised Mexico would pay for it. He's also promised to replace Obamacare with something so much better. Well he's removed 2.3 million people's health insurance and replaced it with...nothing. Half fulfilled, but it's only made the problem worse because now fewer people are covered. And he promised to clear the country's $19tn national debt. By October 2020, it was up to 27tn - and that's not just because of Covid. He promised to remove all the illegal immigrants. He got it to 267,000 in 2019 - still a fair way short of even the records set by Obama - in 2012 deportations went as high as 410,000. I'm not saying Trump has been terrible and that he's kept none of his promises and he's failed completely. But to say that he's kept all of his promises is clearly not the case. Edited January 7, 2021 by chrisjpainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) ..and now we have reports and photographs of Antifa supporters infiltrating the Trump supporters and causing the damage and probably responsible for the pipe bomb. Now I wonder who sent them in to blacken what where peaceful protesters. Hmmmmmm???? Unfortunately for the Antifa garbage they got photographed and those photographs have been compared alongside shots of them with Antifa logos. Edited January 7, 2021 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Walker570 said: ..and now we have reports and photographs of Antifa supporters infiltrating the Trump supporters and causing the damage and probably responsible for the pipe bomb. Now I wonder who sent them in to blacken what where peaceful protesters. Hmmmmmm???? Unfortunately for the Antifa garbage they got photographed and those photographs have been compared alongside shots of them with Antifa logos. Sigh. You mean the accusations over the chap with horns that's been doing the rounds? Nope. Guess again: PolitiFact | Face-painted man in horned fur cap at Capitol riot supports Trump and QAnon, not antifa The far right is falsely blaming antifa for the pro-Trump insurrection on Capitol Hill - Vox Have you any evidence of it? it'd be useful to see and not just 'they' on the internet. it seems right now you're just happy to accept it because it's targeting the left, regardless of whether it's actually true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I see Priti Patel blamed trump for the riots? Trumps side kick Boris has thrown him under a bus now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I see Priti Patel blamed trump for the riots? I quite fancy Priti for an older lady but feel it is an opportunistic attempt to curry favour with the new gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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