JohnfromUK Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) As the title - and some detail here: https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/new-law-ban-traveller-camps-4895743 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9153587/New-laws-make-easier-prosecute-travellers-set-illegal-camps-Britain.html Will/can it ever be enforced? Edited January 16, 2021 by JohnfromUK Added another link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dream on 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail. However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sciurus said: It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail. However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare! Men in prison, women and kids in the workhouse and sell all vehicles to pay for their keep. Simple. Sorted. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, wymberley said: the workhouse Closed - courtesy of the Clement Atlee government of 1948 (by the National Assistance Act) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Closed - courtesy of the Clement Atlee government of 1948 (by the National Assistance Act) Ah, OK, didn't want to be this severe but in that case the Premier Inn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Stand by for the Bleeding Heart proteters Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Sciurus said: It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail. However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare! In this day and age, women are allowed to drive madly enough... the women can drive their cars and caravans off the land that they shouldn't be on. If not, the vehicles should be impounded, the same as anyone elses vehicle would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: In this day and age, women are allowed to drive madly enough... the women can drive their cars and caravans off the land that they shouldn't be on. If not, the vehicles should be impounded, the same as anyone elses vehicle would be. Inspection of vehicles and caravans should reveal most of them are stolen anyway with identification changed. So shouldnt be that big a problem. Kids can go into care, somewhere remote preferably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 @Lloyd90 Unfortunately, the ladies of the camp will have suddenly forgotten how to drive or mislaid their keys! Of course, there is no reason why the women can’t be arrested as well but imagine the furore as the children are taken into care. Remember the international flak Trump got breaking up illegal immigrant families? Whatever the changes in law, the practical problems of dealing with squatters or travellers is just a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Ship them all back to their originating isle which has remained in the EU whilst we aren’t when found to be doing anything illegal.... Edited January 16, 2021 by oscarsdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, wymberley said: Men in prison, women and kids in the workhouse and sell all vehicles to pay for their keep. Simple. Sorted. Next. Very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Sciurus said: It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail. However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare! You could check the serial numbers on the caravans and the vehicles for red diesel for a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Sciurus said: @Lloyd90 Unfortunately, the ladies of the camp will have suddenly forgotten how to drive or mislaid their keys! Of course, there is no reason why the women can’t be arrested as well but imagine the furore as the children are taken into care. Remember the international flak Trump got breaking up illegal immigrant families? Whatever the changes in law, the practical problems of dealing with squatters or travellers is just a nightmare. They'll soon remember the keys where abouts when facing the fees of releasing the cars from impound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 dream on. they will get away with it,we will wait and see, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Yes, I am aware of all that. I had the misfortune of spending several years evicting travellers in Liverpool. The reality is these people live outside the law, but the police do not want to open the Pandora’s box of getting tough and start checking vehicle tax, ownership etc because of the problems it causes. All they used to do is make sure the eviction is carried out without trouble, once the travellers were on the road, they would not let them stop but merely escorted them to the next police patch so it became someone else’s problem. If you think about it, under the proposed scheme, if there was a small camp of 10 vans, you might have to arrest 20 adults, and put say 10 children into care. All under the gaze of mobile phones recording everything and the usual left wing bleeding hearts. If you then confiscated the vans and caravans for whatever reason, in a few days you would be left with 20 released adults and 10 children, with no home and no means of ‘earning’ a living. All telling a sob story on tv. Next minute you would have to put 10 families into B&B accommodation, pay them benefits and eventually give them a Council house, which of course is regarded as torture as it is against their beliefs! Total Nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Sciurus said: It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail. However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare! And that, I was told many years ago why the authorities preferred to look the other way? Uman rites and cost innit? A lot of seriously nasty individuals involved there. Edited January 17, 2021 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Perhaps more intresting from our perspective would be the effect it has on anti's/ hunt sabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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