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As many of you know I tie quite a few flies. Unfortunately at this time of year roadkill is pretty common. So perhaps a stupid question but Is there anything in law that prevents me scavenging bits off otherwise protected creatures for use in tying? I am thinking badgers fur in particular?

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many badgers are moved from the road on to the verge after having a swab taken of the mouth if fresh enough after the kill.

I can't imagine there is anything wrong with taking the bits you want.

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I believe that you aren't allowed to posses a badger ,or , part of a badger , unless certain criteria are filled  ( just something I remember reading years ago ), but in reality , I don't expect that anyone would know , or care , if you cut a few hairs from a road kill badger.

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2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Oh you can definitely get in to trouble with live badgers, but dead ones?

Its an offence to be in possession of a dead badger unless certain conditions are met. One of our more obscure laws.

Also illegal to be in possession of part of a dead one or anything derived from it 🤔 . Few defences to that but too long winded to go in to. Badger Protection Act 1992 i think?

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Offences

1. Taking, injuring or killing badgers.

2. Cruelty.

3. Interfering with badger setts.

4. Selling and possession of live badgers.

5. Marking and ringing.

Exceptions and licences

6. General exceptions.

7. Exceptions from s. 1.

8. Exceptions from s. 3.

9. Exceptions from s. 4.

10. Licences.

10A.Delegation of licence-granting power: Scotland

Enforcement and penalties

11. Powers of constables.

11A.Attempts

12. Penalties and forfeiture.

12ZA.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings (England and Wales)

12A.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings

12B. Offences by bodies corporate etc.

13. Powers of court where dog used or present at commission of offence.

13A.Crown application: Scotland

14. Interpretation.

15. Short title, repeals, commencement and extent.

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3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Offences

1. Taking, injuring or killing badgers.

2. Cruelty.

3. Interfering with badger setts.

4. Selling and possession of live badgers.

5. Marking and ringing.

Exceptions and licences

6. General exceptions.

7. Exceptions from s. 1.

8. Exceptions from s. 3.

9. Exceptions from s. 4.

10. Licences.

10A.Delegation of licence-granting power: Scotland

Enforcement and penalties

11. Powers of constables.

11A.Attempts

12. Penalties and forfeiture.

12ZA.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings (England and Wales)

12A.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings

12B. Offences by bodies corporate etc.

13. Powers of court where dog used or present at commission of offence.

13A.Crown application: Scotland

14. Interpretation.

15. Short title, repeals, commencement and extent.

Dig a little deeper dave . I'm still pretty sure that it's an offence to have a badger,  or part of a badger , in your possession   . I'd guess that it was introduced as a way of securing a prosecution,  after a badger had been killed(and you tried to say that youd found it) ,  or ,  if the police found traces of blood or hair , in your car or on your premises , but had no body . 

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36 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Offences

1. Taking, injuring or killing badgers.

2. Cruelty.

3. Interfering with badger setts.

4. Selling and possession of live badgers.

5. Marking and ringing.

Exceptions and licences

6. General exceptions.

7. Exceptions from s. 1.

8. Exceptions from s. 3.

9. Exceptions from s. 4.

10. Licences.

10A.Delegation of licence-granting power: Scotland

Enforcement and penalties

11. Powers of constables.

11A.Attempts

12. Penalties and forfeiture.

12ZA.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings (England and Wales)

12A.Time limit for bringing summary proceedings

12B. Offences by bodies corporate etc.

13. Powers of court where dog used or present at commission of offence.

13A.Crown application: Scotland

14. Interpretation.

15. Short title, repeals, commencement and extent.

Badger Protection Act 1992. Section 1, subsection 3.

Offence to be in possession of dead badger, any part thereof or anything derived from badger without lawful reason or authority etc etc 

 

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Used to be able to buy badger hair for fly tying.  I had some once, may still be some in all the stuff I have lying about.

The law side of things then I would as said, assume that being in possesion is probably not a good idea.

If it is for salmon flies, then there are alternatives which work just as well.  I will see what I have lying about.

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1 hour ago, Old farrier said:

And the. badger foot back scratcher

not to mention ditchmans ceremonial sporran 😂

That wasn't a sporran,  he was just trying to push the ginger all the way in with his ginger poker , as you walked into the room .

Fair play to him I say . Not many would go to those lengths to revive a dead badger 😅.

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On 12/04/2021 at 21:46, billytheghillie said:

why do you want badger hair? there is 1,000,s of other hair, fur out there. I have tied flies for 50 years and have never used it.

It is used on one or two traditional salmon shrimp flies. I agree lots of other choices but have to admit that badger is still the best choice. Also been tying for may be a few years longer than yourself.  Javelina hair is excellent to fit the same use and also nilgai as they ahve the same 'feeler' result in the tying and also come with the black white grey bars . 

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