ilovemyheckler Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know anything about these? I recently acquired an old game counter, possibly German? However, although the front looks to be brass plated the rear has had the plated finish removed and now has a silver finish. At first I thought that the front and rear may have had different finishes to make it easier to select the right game but on closer inspection there are still small remains of brass on the rear. Do you know of anyone who might be able to refurbish and replate the rear and the front and possibly tell me a bit about the origin and history? Edited June 3, 2021 by ilovemyheckler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 what has the title of this thread got to do with that object ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 i was thinkin same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 Game counters were known as Norfolk Liars because not all the users clicked the correct number of birds down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 They are very collectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemyheckler Posted June 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 That object is a "Norfolk Liar" I am not suggesting that people from Norfolk do not tell the truth! A quick Google gives; Some sportsmen had an over optimistic view of the number of birds they actually hit and on occasion may instruct their loader to record near misses when they were “confident” the bird would eventually drop hence the nickname for these game markers of “Norfolk Liar”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just now, ilovemyheckler said: That object is a "Norfolk Liar" I am not suggesting that people from Norfolk do not tell the truth! Are you suggesting that they do 🤭🤔 These objects are easy to use if you have 6 fingers 😂😂 as said above highly collectible I once had a gun with one let into the side of the stock marked with three counters pheasant partridge and hares another one I regret selling 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 There is a modern copy made https://fineshootingaccessories.com/product/4-dial-game-counter-norfolk-liar/ and older ones do well at auction https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25987/lot/122/ https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26037/lot/88/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, ditchman said: what has the title of this thread got to do with that object ? ditchy came out fighting then he realy got his wild up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 sometimes history does not impress me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: sometimes history does not impress me We could rewrite it for you but it’s not so much fun 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: We could rewrite it for you but it’s not so much fun 😂😂😂 what gets me is "WHO" coined the phrase.............i will tell you .......wealthy non-indigenous southerners............thinking they were brow beating the norfolk serf to cover up for their bloody ineptitude................paaahhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: what gets me is "WHO" coined the phrase.............i will tell you .......wealthy non-indigenous southerners............thinking they were brow beating the norfolk serf to cover up for their bloody ineptitude................paaahhhhhhh It’s geographic and it’s not our fault your the oppressed Norfolk serf Anyway we need someone to carry the tray of pimms around on a day like this you should try it it’s not all roses what we have to put up with all day we’re at it chasing after servants and maids constantly checking the silverware and wine cellar not to mention the dam chauffeur joy riding in the Bentley you serfs have never had it so good 😊 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, ditchman said: what gets me is "WHO" coined the phrase.............i will tell you .......wealthy non-indigenous southerners............thinking they were brow beating the norfolk serf to cover up for their bloody inep etitude................paaahhhhhhh Wow , steady on boi , your ole blood pressure will soon be high enough to pump up a John Deere tractor wheel , your best bet is sit out in your garden and enjoy a nice glass of the finest wine made with grapes from the mountain region of our fine county , or is that a lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, marsh man said: Wow , steady on boi , your ole blood pressure will soon be high enough to pump up a John Deere tractor wheel , your best bet is sit out in your garden and enjoy a nice glass of the finest wine made with grapes from the mountain region of our fine county , or is that a lie Well, there’s nothing wrong with Norfolk made whisky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, London Best said: Well, there’s nothing wrong with Norfolk made whisky. chateau layby ....more like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, ditchman said: what gets me is "WHO" coined the phrase.............i will tell you .......wealthy non-indigenous southerners............thinking they were brow beating the norfolk serf to cover up for their bloody ineptitude................paaahhhhhhh Careful, you will have an uncontrollable urge to push statues over. The Gnomes in your garden should watch out. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 they make some good wine in swaffham they give the beaters a bottle at chrismas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moongeese Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 I think there are two of these in the next Holts auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 i see the title has been ammended thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: They are very collectable. You`re right there. Holts next auction have a Hawksley one estimated £300-£500 and a sterling silver one by Thornhill estimated £2500-£3500 OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: You`re right there. Holts next auction have a Hawksley one estimated £300-£500 and a sterling silver one by Thornhill estimated £2500-£3500 OB there is obviously money to be made in not telling the truth............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, London Best said: Well, there’s nothing wrong with Norfolk made whisky. Never a truer word spoken London Best ( just to keep in tune with the original title ) not to upset our friends north of the border but some connoisseurs of Whiskey rate our's better than some of the well known Scotch , mind you , as I don't drink the stuff I can only go by what others say . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 hours ago, ditchman said: chateau layby ....more like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 I'm intrigued... can anyone tell me what the original thread title was which offended our venerable colleague so much?! Oh yes and intrigued by the artefacts in question, a good chunk of money's worth if they're in decent nick?? Nice find! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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