Hospital in Texas sacks staff who wouldn't take the jab

[12gauge82]

54 minutes ago, ordnance said:

And you have the option in the UK to pay insurance and go private, the UK pays less taxpayers money into health care that a lot of countries. As for tax we would have similar tax rates NHS or not. 

 

But you don't have the option to stop paying for the NHS as well or I think many people would do it. 

Look at world health care rankings, the NHS doesn't even make the top ten on many lists. 

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16301817276187&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsociety%2F2021%2Faug%2F04%2Fnhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems

[ordnance]

9 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

But you don't have the option to stop paying for the NHS as well or I think many people would do it. 

Look at world health care rankings, the NHS doesn't even make the top ten on many lists. 

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16301817276187&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsociety%2F2021%2Faug%2F04%2Fnhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems

Most don't have the option of no paying tax, or choosing were it goes. 

Edited August 28, 2021 by ordnance

[Vince Green]

There are many different levels of hospital as well in America. Think of many of them as being like hotels. There are two star and there are five star. with prices and facilities to match,

 Many are run by charities or religious organisations with good intentions but limited resources. Hospitals have names like The Syracuse Methodist Hospital.

There are VA hospitals (Veteran's Assn) spend a few years in the military and you get hospital care for life.

Thats another reason why so many people belong to churches over there. In the absence of all the UK benefits handed out here Churches over there are the self help organisations at the heart of their community.

People pull togeather, if you wreck your car, break your leg and can't work it would be the congregation that came to your aid, somebody would drive your kids to school,  the wives would cook pies and shops would donate groceries. If you were a respected member of the church a little money might be put through your letterbox too

somebody would stop by and cut your grass and probably an old banger would be found to get you mobile. Its seen as being neighbourly but when the shoe is on the foot you are expected to step up and be seen to step up good..

Its good and its bad, the spirit of community is very rewarding but if you were new in town and hadn't got yourself embedded in a community you would be left high and dry because there is no other safety net.

Can't pay your rent? you just get evicted. None of the hearings and appeals you get here. The deputies just turn up and heave you onto the street.   There is no social worker to put you in a taxi and pack you off to council paid for bed and breakfast till they can find you a flat

Then you are sleeping under a road bridge. If you are lucky. . And there you will probably die because there aren't many ways back from that.

Edited August 28, 2021 by Vince Green

[12gauge82]

7 hours ago, ordnance said:

Most don't have the option of no paying tax, or choosing were it goes. 

Exactly, but the point is the NHS isn't actually that great if you work, it's beaten by many other countries health care systems and delivers worse service for the people who actually pay the bill.