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14 hours ago, Dave at kelton said:

You boys need to get to Scotland wild camping and free.

Perhaps not such a good idea to promote extensively - in view of the volumes of trash, litter and excrement being spread around. You want the wilder countryside to look like a lay-by on a main road? ...carry on.

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Most of the west of Wales (all of the parts that rely heavily on tourism at least) spent most of last year telling us 'city folk' that we weren't welcome and to not even dare set foot in their lands. God forbid you spoke with a posh accent and happened to own some sort of property there. (I do not FYI).

I'm not too keen on going there now that furlough is ending, their tourism based businesses are failing and they're begging people to go there for their 'staycation'.

In the brief period last summer that restrictions were relaxed Italy welcomed us with open arms. I'd quite like to go back to Italy when allowed rather than be gouged by people who spent the last year telling us we weren't welcome. 

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1 minute ago, Poor Shot said:

Most of the west of Wales (all of the parts that rely heavily on tourism at least) spent most of last year telling us 'city folk' that we weren't welcome and to not even dare set foot in their lands. God forbid you spoke with a posh accent and happened to own some sort of property there. (I do not FYI).

I'm not too keen on going there now that furlough is ending, their tourism based businesses are failing and they're begging people to go there for their 'staycation'.

In the brief period last summer that restrictions were relaxed Italy welcomed us with open arms. I'd quite like to go back to Italy when allowed rather than be gouged by people who spent the last year telling us we weren't welcome. 


Interesting point, much of Cornwall and Devon did the same. 
 

A lot of complaining about non-locals coming to visit with their caravans and holiday homes. 
 

Holidays in the U.K. have always been fairly expensive compared to what you can get abroad. 
 

Most people’s standard of a “good holiday” is sitting at a poolside, hot weather, and drinking themselves into oblivion. 
 

You can get a flight on a budget airline to many places for less than £100… a cheap room in a so so hotel on an all inclusive deal, or just digs, and basic (chips and a pint) type food in most foreign towns for not a lot of money. 
 

There are massive areas of Spain etc that have nothing in that area except for nice weather and a bit of sea. 
 

I imagine most people would prefer this mind to spending a week in the rain in a tent in West Wales. 

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18 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

 

I imagine most people would prefer this mind to spending a week in the rain in a tent in West Wales. 

Lol I am having a week off, it's been great weather and today is another scorcher,, wife is packing up a picnic, I am getting the mesh jackets out and we are off out to somewhere nice and quiet on the gloriously sunny Pembrokeshire coast.

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41 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

Lol I am having a week off, it's been great weather and today is another scorcher,, wife is packing up a picnic, I am getting the mesh jackets out and we are off out to somewhere nice and quiet on the gloriously sunny Pembrokeshire coast.

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I spent the weekend in Northumberland and travelled back down through Yorkshire. 
 

Very similar and very nice. 
 

But you can almost guarantee the sun, sea and cheap booze in Spain, you can’t compare it to the U.K. where you get predicted a heat wave and it rains torrentially for 2 weeks just when they say it’ll be stunning … makes it hard to plan. 


I have always said if you catch the U.K. at the right time of year I’m not sure why you’d want to go abroad! 

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Flip side is use them or lose them is what I'm thinking, popular UK locations are at a premium price and then some. 

Its probably fair to say anyone who ploughed their life savings and spare time into setting up dwellings/sites for holidays in popular UK location location locations only to not be able to recoup their investments in a shorter season due to lock downs will do better to sell the property and further reduce holiday availability because they are treated as rip-offs.

Sounds like the UK holiday industry is on a lose - lose path to me.

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In Cornwall the number of people actually making money from the tourists is comparatively small, most of the bigger  hotels and caravan sites (for example) are owned by remote companies so the profits don't stay in Cornwall. All the locals get in the main are seasonal minimum wage jobs.

Compare that to the massive amounts of disruption endured by ordinary folk just trying to get on with their day to day lives and the reason why there is hostility.

One local pointed out to me that a few years ago a motor caravan was a transit van with an elevating roof. Now they are three times as long and sometimes towing a car. Driven by a septuagenarian with thick glasses who has never driven anything bigger than the family car.

They still use ordinary sat navs instead of the specialist satnavs for trucks and coaches. So they get stuck trying to get down narrow lanes and it snarls up the school runs and people trying to home etc. When this happens all the time there is bound to be resentment  

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7 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

In Cornwall the number of people actually making money from the tourists is comparatively small, most of the bigger  hotels and caravan sites (for example) are owned by remote companies so the profits don't stay in Cornwall. All the locals get in the main are seasonal minimum wage jobs.

Compare that to the massive amounts of disruption endured by ordinary folk just trying to get on with their day to day lives and the reason why there is hostility.

One local pointed out to me that a few years ago a motor caravan was a transit van with an elevating roof. Now they are three times as long and sometimes towing a car. Driven by a septuagenarian with thick glasses who has never driven anything bigger than the family car.

They still use ordinary sat navs instead of the specialist satnavs for trucks and coaches. So they get stuck trying to get down narrow lanes and it snarls up the school runs and people trying to home etc. When this happens all the time there is bound to be resentment  

I can sympathise with a lot of this. Ours is a tourist area to a small extent. We have though tried to make some provision for motor homes and ask that they both use our local businesses and make a donation to our community if they stay over night. Many do and it is the only income our community association gets. It is reinvested in the community, allotments, Playpark, grass cutting etc.

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We have been going to Venice on a yearly basis until the pandemic obviously, and even if we could go now, having two dogs has put paid to that for a while. 
We do however, go up to Carrick Bay in Dumfries and Galloway on a fairly regular basis, so are more than happy just to do that. The new dog hasn’t been yet but she’ll love the beach and sea just as the old one does. Can’t wait to get her up there actually. 

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22 hours ago, Dave-G said:

Flip side is use them or lose them is what I'm thinking, popular UK locations are at a premium price and then some. 

Its probably fair to say anyone who ploughed their life savings and spare time into setting up dwellings/sites for holidays in popular UK location location locations only to not be able to recoup their investments in a shorter season due to lock downs will do better to sell the property and further reduce holiday availability because they are treated as rip-offs.

Sounds like the UK holiday industry is on a lose - lose path to me.

The thing is they're trying to make all their losses back in a very quick time by fleecing the possible return visitors, they can't see that small increases may pay off better in the long run.

I've just had friends over from the USA and after a 5 day quarantine (test to release scheme) at my place we travelled around the UK and to be honest the prices weren't bad, I just used booking.com and could find hotels for less than £70/night (including Edinburgh, Oxford & London).

I'll be heading to the USA as soon as we're allowed in as I work from home so the quarantine (if any) isn't a problem for me.

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