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Right chaps get your thinking caps on 

would like to know what plant caused this and if possible any treatment 

horse is in a big field with others and is the only one that’s suffering from the problem 

appologies for the picture was the best we could do as he’s not very happy about it being looked at 

you maybe want to zoom in on the picture 

appologies to anyone who finds it distressing 

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I'm not really sure what we are looking at.

Hogweed will cause sunburn/rash/flaking skin, especially in this weather. photosensitivity

Dandelions and sow thistles will cause a black/darkened tongue. Acids

Oak will darken the tongue too if the leaves are chewed due to the tannins

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2 hours ago, Scully said:

Job for a vet I would say. 


a vet has obvious been called 

 but finding the cause would prevent it happening to others 

2 hours ago, Agriv8 said:

Not a vet - but that looks like you need a vet or horse person to take a look and a walk round field!

But long could it be taking something from overhanging trees ! Maybe needs a muzzle on short term.

regards Agriv8 

it’s in a stable at the moment being treated 

 

2 hours ago, 39TDS said:

I'm not really sure what we are looking at.

Hogweed will cause sunburn/rash/flaking skin, especially in this weather. photosensitivity

Dandelions and sow thistles will cause a black/darkened tongue. Acids

Oak will darken the tongue too if the leaves are chewed due to the tannins

Inside of a horses mouth 

can’t see any hogweed no oaks 

 

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looks like methaemoglobinaemia , various possible causes - nitrate toxicity? /red maple leaf?

As an aside - looks like an old horse with a long history of crib-biting/windsucking - and may be predisposed to biting/chewing on potential source of toxins.

...well that's my 2c worth.

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On 20/07/2021 at 10:02, Old farrier said:

Right chaps get your thinking caps on 

would like to know what plant caused this and if possible any treatment 

horse is in a big field with others and is the only one that’s suffering from the problem 

appologies for the picture was the best we could do as he’s not very happy about it being looked at 

you maybe want to zoom in on the picture 

appologies to anyone who finds it distressing 

E59F0588-B8EC-4F3C-8673-1FB9D902516D.jpeg

Any update? Did the vet shed any light ?

atb Agriv8

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1 hour ago, Agriv8 said:

Any update? Did the vet shed any light ?

atb Agriv8

Horse is still with us and a bit happier responding well to vetenary treatment 

tests for a lot of the most common suspect causes are negative and searches of the field haven’t brought anything to light beginnings to think as a possibility inadvertently fed something by a well meaning member of the public 

thanks for your concern 👍

On 20/07/2021 at 20:48, harkom said:

looks like methaemoglobinaemia , various possible causes - nitrate toxicity? /red maple leaf?

As an aside - looks like an old horse with a long history of crib-biting/windsucking - and may be predisposed to biting/chewing on potential source of toxins.

...well that's my 2c worth.

He’s a older horse and a greedy thing although not a wind sucker or crib biter he’s been known to chew the stable door from time to time there’s not a lot of trees around the field as it on top of the cliff

ive suggested your thoughts to the vet and will let you know the results of the test 

many thanks for your input 👍😊 

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6 minutes ago, Benthejockey said:

Looks like something has burnt him doesnt it. Any hot metal he could have licked or water managed to get super heated? Or a salt lick maybe? Strange one!

Was thinking more like a dumped car battery 

it’s not some you see everyday 

thanks for your input 😊👍

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9 hours ago, Old farrier said:

beginnings to think as a possibility inadvertently fed something by a well meaning member of the public 

Parsnip? Certainly scalds pigs.

Car batteries cause lead poisoning rather than acid burns, quite common actually and would expect the vet to have ruled that one out.

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