pork chop Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 Surely they could practice in day with really dark shades on inconsiderate barstools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, pork chop said: Surely they could practice in day with really dark shades on inconsiderate barstools Surely they could, or just use simulators, or not fly at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 20 hours ago, Diver One said: It doesn't bother me, I enjoy it. Good job really since when back home I live 5 miles from where they make them Warton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 drones are the future my boy ....put yer money in drones $$$$$$$$$$$$$ .s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Surely they could, or just use simulators, or not fly at all! Sims are just that, synthetic trainers for operational procedures and currency. But they can in no way replicate the authenticity of flight- never been in a sim that can produce anything but a minuscule amount of G loading. Whilst realistic in their programming, you really cannot beat the real thing 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Sims are just that, synthetic trainers for operational procedures and currency. But they can in no way replicate the authenticity of flight- never been in a sim that can produce anything but a minuscule amount of G loading. Whilst realistic in their programming, you really cannot beat the real thing 🙂 Oh the irony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Oh the irony! Now now—- they got me back in the box soon. Time to see if it really is like riding a bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 While living in West Wales, in the 90s the hills were alive with jets daily, no dramas, but one week they decided to come over stupidly low. As kids it was amazing, but the goats had a **** fit and our Welsh Mountain pony was in foal and it was a tense few weeks. Anyway mother complained to brawdy, asked them to just stay higher up over our heads until it was born, then carry on as we all enjoyed it. They responded by giving us a guided tour of brawdy. ******* amazing, we went in these simulators, allowed to sit in one of the hawks in a hanger (I can remember flipping switches like a loon, hell I thought I was Tom cruse, and the crewman not being happy about me and my sisters touching everything 😂) also met the pilots who gave us loads of signed posters (which I still have somewhere), postcards, paper weights, notepads and pewter pin badges, then a quick drive round in a landy upto the airfield and the finale of a quick up and down a few hundred foot in a seaking. Amazing ******* day. Well worth complaining 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 It always seems to be that these type of sorties ramp up just before some serious action. Afghanistan? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, moondoggy said: Warton? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, pork chop said: Surely they could practice in day with really dark shades on inconsiderate barstools No. It's actually not the same. Even though you'd think that just wearing a flying helmet with a full face dark visor would substitute for night time. Just as practicing pistol shooting with specifically made such glasses isn't the same. For pilots of course it'd be absence of city lights, vehicle lights on motorways, using the moon reflecting off rivers and etc. to check position by. All that you'd lose. With pistol shooting it's the harmful effect of muzzle flash on your natural night vision that you lose if you substitute "dark shades" on a range in daylight for actual true night firing. No. using "dark shades" doesn't achieve the same teaching effect. Edited August 14, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 When were up at our woodland , the fast jets fly past as they do the mach loop . Most of them are above us , but they'll sometimes fly by at eye level , and sometimes even below us , and you can look down into the cockpit . A huge prop plane flew past when myself and my lad were up there earlier in the year , it was so , slow , low , and close to us , that we thought it was about to crash land😲. We absolutely love them , and it makes our day when we get a fly by. Lin does get a tad miffed that the pilots never wave back though 😅. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, mel b3 said: Lin does get a tad miffed that the pilots never wave back though 😅. I'll have a word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I'll have a word! I've explained to lin that they might be waving back , but they're about a mile away by the time they raise their hand. Joking aside . Lin really does wave , and you sometimes see the pilots react and look in her direction for a split second . Those guys are pretty switched on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 11 hours ago, mel b3 said: When were up at our woodland , the fast jets fly past as they do the mach loop . Most of them are above us , but they'll sometimes fly by at eye level , and sometimes even below us , and you can look down into the cockpit . A huge prop plane flew past when myself and my lad were up there earlier in the year , it was so , slow , low , and close to us , that we thought it was about to crash land😲. We absolutely love them , and it makes our day when we get a fly by. Lin does get a tad miffed that the pilots never wave back though 😅. I get jets and the odd Hercules go over the woods I squirrel in, the most impressive so far has been a pair of Ospreys though, probably because they were going pretty slow and low, I wondered what was going on 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mice! said: I get jets and the odd Hercules go over the woods I squirrel in, the most impressive so far has been a pair of Ospreys though, probably because they were going pretty slow and low, I wondered what was going on 😄 Now that's impressive 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 13/08/2021 at 22:20, moondoggy said: Spare a thought for us who live near Louth. If you live near RAF Conningsby, you have to expect it I’m afraid. I really don’t mind, they keep us safe. Me and the wife would move up there, tomorrow if we could we stayed in Ashden fen was nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 14/08/2021 at 23:06, enfieldspares said: No. It's actually not the same. Even though you'd think that just wearing a flying helmet with a full face dark visor would substitute for night time. Just as practicing pistol shooting with specifically made such glasses isn't the same. For pilots of course it'd be absence of city lights, vehicle lights on motorways, using the moon reflecting off rivers and etc. to check position by. All that you'd lose. With pistol shooting it's the harmful effect of muzzle flash on your natural night vision that you lose if you substitute "dark shades" on a range in daylight for actual true night firing. No. using "dark shades" doesn't achieve the same teaching effect. Was a joke 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisO Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 14/08/2021 at 19:49, TIGHTCHOKE said: Oh the irony! There’s a lot of it about….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka11 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 10/08/2021 at 18:57, GingerCat said: My favourite is when you've just got the kids to sleep and are watching a film when the screech over the house, borderline supersonic at about 15 feet. Last summer a tornado flew behind the house, most days at about 4pm. He was lower than the willow tree so about 100 feet. Incredibly close and really rather good to see. What the pilot was doing is anybodies guess as they don't normally go below 250. You sure it was a tornado or as often called a Tonka they were retired from flying duties 2years ago was probably a typhoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Just now, Marka11 said: You sure it was a tornado or as often called a Tonka they were retired from flying duties 2years ago was probably a typhoon 100%. I have sat in both and no stranger to what they are. He wasn't hanging about wither with wings back etc. I did some asking and it was from a research squadron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka11 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Sweet they still being used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Might not be now. This was about 4 years ago. Quite what he was researching I don't know. Didn't care really as it was fun to see it screeching past so low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, GingerCat said: 100%. I have sat in both and no stranger to what they are. He wasn't hanging about wither with wings back etc. I did some asking and it was from a research squadron. A research squadron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 17/08/2021 at 17:57, fse10 said: Me and the wife would move up there, tomorrow if we could we stayed in Ashden fen was nice. I’ll let you know when we put our cottage on the market then! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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