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5 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

In that case we're all going to need a bigger boat 😂

as they are on their way to the med to spawn it should be

"zut alors mon duie ...checher pour un bateaux grand nes-pas mon ami.........ha hawww he hawww he haw haw....blah blah blah"

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6 minutes ago, ditchman said:

as they are on their way to the med to spawn it should be

"zut alors mon duie ...checher pour un bateaux grand nes-pas mon ami.........ha hawww he hawww he haw haw....blah blah blah"

My French isn't the best but I assume it says something about cheese and onions 👍

Just now, Old farrier said:

It’ll liven up the beaches and the charter boats will have a fielday I’d rather catch another  tuna than a mackerel all day long and I’m happy to catch big sharks 

there’s plenty in my vicinity blues porbeagle and threshers

I can’t change what’s happening so I’m going to enjoy it 😊

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Now that'd definitely get the old ticker working 

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17 minutes ago, ditchman said:

great whites have already been spotted in our waters......on their way to the med to spawn

I have it on good authority that a probable great white was watched from a cliff top hunting seals in Lewis, very near some surfers, the observer alerted the surfers, [this was not a basking shark]

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33 minutes ago, Old farrier said:

It’ll liven up the beaches and the charter boats will have a fielday I’d rather catch another  tuna than a mackerel all day long and I’m happy to catch big sharks 

there’s plenty in my vicinity blues porbeagle and threshers

I can’t change what’s happening so I’m going to enjoy it 😊

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i feel its pain

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On 22/09/2021 at 16:08, chrisjpainter said:

Pinch of salt time though. Dr Susan Crockford's papers are never open to peer review, a Greenpeace investigation showed that any internal review system was far from academic or even coherent, she's receiving payments from climate change denial thinktanks and she has no formal expertise in polar bears and polar bear research.

That doesn't mean she's wrong, but it does mean that her work looks...scientifically suspect.

That's laughable ********, see here....

https://polarbearscience.com/about-2/

Greenpeace are lying to try to discredit her. You have to ask why.

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On 22/09/2021 at 16:08, chrisjpainter said:

That doesn't mean she's wrong, but it does mean that her work looks...scientifically suspect.

Then using your own logic anything published or even vaguely paid for by Greenpeace is equally "scientifically suspect" as we know, following the UEA "scandal" most peer reviews on climate change by this group are "cooked"

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41 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

Then using your own logic anything published or even vaguely paid for by Greenpeace is equally "scientifically suspect" as we know, following the UEA "scandal" most peer reviews on climate change by this group are "cooked"

I agree. Some of their stuff's fine, but they have their woolly areas. They're still good on fishing/over fishing and pollution, but they're more murky when it comes to easy headline grabbing things like climate change. 

And they have a slightly awkward habit of screwing up big, public protests, which is hilarious, but doesn't help the cause of the better stuff they do.

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On 01/10/2021 at 18:25, islandgun said:

I have it on good authority that a probable great white was watched from a cliff top hunting seals in Lewis, very near some surfers, the observer alerted the surfers, [this was not a basking shark]

I have never understood why great whites are common off the north eastern seaboard of the USA, but not here when the water conditions  are virtually identical and there are plenty of seals to hunt...

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22 minutes ago, MirokuMK70 said:

I have never understood why great whites are common off the north eastern seaboard of the USA, but not here when the water conditions  are virtually identical and there are plenty of seals to hunt...

yep me too, there does seem to be a vacant ecological niche currently. And we all know what happens to them sooner or later.

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1 hour ago, MirokuMK70 said:

I have never understood why great whites are common off the north eastern seaboard of the USA, but not here when the water conditions  are virtually identical and there are plenty of seals to hunt...

There are plenty of seals in the Hebrides, I myself saw and heard a commotion whilst in my boat, with a big grey seal leaving the water several times and coming down with a huge splash, a lot of noise and water, A fisherman i know, whilst fishing out west saw a large shark around his creels when hauling. The incident in question with the surfers was witnessed by a friend who is a marine biologist and there were others who also saw it

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On 22/09/2021 at 11:28, henry d said:

What rubbish? Global warming, if it is not true then why are we getting more exotica coming here to stay, trigger fish, sea bream species (now being caught in Scotland), bass becoming more common in the north? Swordfish in the firth of forth, sunfish off Roker pier, bonito...

I was catching trigger fish when I was a lad, pushing 75 now!

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10 minutes ago, scolopax said:

yep me too, there does seem to be a vacant ecological niche currently. And we all know what happens to them sooner or later.

No definitive answer on that! Even experts can't particularly explain it. Everything seems to be in favour of them being here, but they're just not (excluding a very few potentially credible sightings).

So the answer is probably a range of things not quite corresponding at the right times to allow their expansion out of traditional ranges into the north Eastern Atlantic

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19 hours ago, chrisjpainter said:

Sorry, which bit are you directing me to?

 

22 hours ago, Nial said:

Dr Susan Crockford's papers are never open to peer review....... and she has no formal expertise in polar bears and polar bear research.

All deliberate lies.

You seem to have bought the AGW scam, you could do with reading some of the posts here (mostly referencing published peer reviewed papers)....

https://notrickszone.com/

Such as....

https://notrickszone.com/2021/08/24/adjusting-to-warm-nasa-data-alterations-change-cooling-to-warming-in-ireland-greece/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/10/03/south-pole-sees-record-cold-winter-smashing-1976-record-wapo-admits-chill-was-exceptional/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/27/more-evidence-antarctica-has-been-cooling-regional-sea-ice-increasing-for-over-40-years/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/21/shortening-northern-europe-summers-august-temperatures-have-been-cooling-since-jma-data-suggest/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/20/oceans-were-more-acidic-in-the-1730s-todays-co2-levels-are-geologically-trifling/

 

 

"following the UEA "scandal" most peer reviews on climate change by this group are "cooked" "

(I can't quote that for some reason).

Climate gatekeeping is still going on. An already published paper outlining a well known ice core observation (that CO2 follows temperature, not the other way round) is pulled for political reasons......

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/30/activists-get-a-recent-paper-that-threatens-climate-alarm-narratives-removed-from-journal/

 

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1 hour ago, Nial said:

 

All deliberate lies.

You seem to have bought the AGW scam, you could do with reading some of the posts here (mostly referencing published peer reviewed papers)....

https://notrickszone.com/

Such as....

https://notrickszone.com/2021/08/24/adjusting-to-warm-nasa-data-alterations-change-cooling-to-warming-in-ireland-greece/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/10/03/south-pole-sees-record-cold-winter-smashing-1976-record-wapo-admits-chill-was-exceptional/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/27/more-evidence-antarctica-has-been-cooling-regional-sea-ice-increasing-for-over-40-years/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/21/shortening-northern-europe-summers-august-temperatures-have-been-cooling-since-jma-data-suggest/

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/20/oceans-were-more-acidic-in-the-1730s-todays-co2-levels-are-geologically-trifling/

 

 

"following the UEA "scandal" most peer reviews on climate change by this group are "cooked" "

(I can't quote that for some reason).

Climate gatekeeping is still going on. An already published paper outlining a well known ice core observation (that CO2 follows temperature, not the other way round) is pulled for political reasons......

https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/30/activists-get-a-recent-paper-that-threatens-climate-alarm-narratives-removed-from-journal/

 

All deliberate lies? No, not really. Her formal qualifications are in evolution and spaciation, including particular focus on mammals and thyroid function as well as animal domestication. She is not a climatologist, nor does she have any qualifications or education in polar bears. none of her degrees studied either disciplines, so that's entirely fair.

As to the articles. They've been grossly misinterpreted by the single website you've gone to for all your information. You need to read them far more carefully than the website has done, because they've cherry picked big time. I've highlighted the one, because that's the most unfair misrepresentation. But skip notrickszone and what they want you to read and instead read the whole papers. And I mean really read them. Get to grips with the data modelling used, the stats analysis employed and look at the parameters of the investigation. You'll notice if you read the analysis of the Weddell Sea that it confirms that overall antarctic ice is shrinking and that the growth of ice isn't about temperature changes in the area. The paper states quite clearly the ice is increasing in spring. Does that sound right? Ice increasing in line with temperatures warming? Read the paper it explains why that's happening and why it doesn't show that there's more ice.

You complain about people falling for the lies spread, and of course it's always worth being sceptical of your own sources, but why do you think the website you've gone to gives you 'quote this' and 'share this' statements? Read the whole paper, understand the whole paper and don't jump to the headline bits. 

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Re: Great Whites, there is some reason to believe an expanding tuna population could result in an increased chance of GWS making it this far north. 

Males are 20% smaller than females and consequently their prey tends to be made up of a higher percentage of fish species, one of which is tuna. The more tuna there are, the more likely it is that their predators will follow.

That's pure conjecture! there's no scientific backing for that particularly, other than more prey can lead to more predators...

There was a bit of hype a few years ago, when a list was produced of 10 sharks that could start turning up in our waters on account of warming waters. GWS wasn't among them, weirdly. 

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4 minutes ago, Old farrier said:

There’s plenty of sharks around our coastline

thing is not many people fish for them so they rarely get reported also our seas are relatively choppy so surface sightings ore difficult 

if we had calm clear waters with less commercial traffic I’m sure there would be a lot more reports 

I just think someone, somewhere would have been able to get something on video. Given how much traffic there is, how many anglers there are, how many trawlers are out, how many divers are down, someone somewhere sure would have got something on video by now if it was happening more often than once in every few years. I'm not saying there's never been a GWS in our waters, there probably has been one or two lost ones turning up in my lifetime, but definitely not yearly, or even biennially or even...

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5 or 6 years ago I was involved with a TV project off the North Devon coast. It involved trawling a dead whale out to an area between Lundy island and the south of Ireland, the idea being if you want to catch big fish, use big bait! The team had been tracking a female Great White for a number of years that migrated across the Atlantic towards the target area but always turned south just before she reached the Irish deep. The program was fronted by Ben Fogal and can probably be found online. Talking to the crew on their return they were astounded at the sheer volume of Blue sharks that the whale attracted, they were onto the carcass shortly after they left Lundy behind, the problem was though there where so many Blues they believe the numbers intimidated the Great White so she was never sighted. They sunk the whale at the end of the programme and left remote cameras to view the carcass as it was consumed by all and sundry, I don't think the follow up programme was ever shown.

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