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Oh Sir Kier Starmer, what are you up to?


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He recently published a 14000 word missive on how he wants to change the labour party and in particular how it chooses its leader.

 

Now it is being rewritten and most of his changes have been removed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/25/starmer-ditches-key-part-of-plan-to-change-labour-leader-selection-rules

Keep it up, all the time you and your once proud party are un-electable it means Boris can do whatever he wants.

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Father told me not to discuss politics or religion because you just go round in useless circles that go nowhere and only end up in wars. ...... But......  Totally unelectable. Len McCluskey On the box now spouting how good Corbin is/was and ripping Starmer a new one. Just right for a politician.  There I go,    I just wasted a couple of minutes.  I didn't learn.

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1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Yes, exactly my thoughts when I saw she has repeatedly refused to apologise for her poor comments.

 

Both Starmer and Rayner are massively out of their depth.

MOMENTUM will dictate who leads the labour party.........until the party splits 

trouble is how can you fight against a manifesto that promises re-embusment of uni' fee's and free uni' fee's and the legalisation of canabis ...huh ?

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8 hours ago, ditchman said:

MOMENTUM will dictate who leads the labour party.........until the party splits 

trouble is how can you fight against a manifesto that promises reimbursement of uni' fee's and free uni' fee's and the legalisation of cannabis ...huh ?

You may well be correct and of course if it does split, that would only weaken it even more.

What with Sir Ed Davey and his 13 MP set up, we will not have a viable opposition for a long time.

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9 hours ago, ditchman said:

Rayner is starting to show her colours and lack of education now

Quite.  Can anyone really think that someone like her is a suitable person to represent the UK (as a Minister, or senior member of Government) on the international stage?

She is foul mouthed, hate filled, bile spouting, uneducated and totally lacks the skills needed for any form of diplomacy.  She simply appeals to the 'thug' culture that seems to infect much of the labour party these days.

I know that Johnson isn't exactly the most diplomatic person - but he is (apparently) quite popular internationally because people do understand that he makes his comments just a bit 'tongue in cheek' and take it with the humour it was intended (e.g. his Kermit the frog 'hard to be green' speech).  It is actually quite hard to be humorous when with an international audience as senses of humour differ so much and what amuses some offends others.

7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

What with Sir Ed Davey and his 13 MP

They say 13 is "lucky for some"?

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3 hours ago, RockySpears said:

If he keeps this up, Boris will be in power forever....

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-labour-leader-says-its-wrong-say-only-women-have-cervix

 

 

RS

And there was me not mentioning it! Labour have had a mass exodus of female activists, you know, the middle aged and old women who had time to go around knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, attending meetings and canvassing. 300+ resigned en masse and Labour didn't care. Denying material reality does not make you a suitable leader of the country. 

The only good thing about Labour is that they are not the Lib Dems. 

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5 minutes ago, ehb102 said:

And there was me not mentioning it! Labour have had a mass exodus of female activists, you know, the middle aged and old women who had time to go around knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, attending meetings and canvassing. 300+ resigned en masse and Labour didn't care. Denying material reality does not make you a suitable leader of the country. 

The only good thing about Labour is that they are not the Lib Dems. 

What planet are these people on. You can't ban people stating an absolute fact because it doesn't fit with your agenda. 

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21 minutes ago, Lord v said:

Labour still not realising noise on Twitter does not equal ticks in boxes and bums on seats. 

Nail. Head.

Conservatives *sort of* get that but appear to be a social democrat party and not proper conservatives.

Whilst party conferences - labour especially - are always guilty of naval gazing, Labour seem to be taking that sport to new levels.

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39 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

What planet are these people on. You can't ban people stating an absolute fact because it doesn't fit with your agenda. 

It really is a test of who is a liar and who isn't. Who is prepared to tell lies on a regular basis? Who claims the end justifies the means? When they realise they lost another election because they pandered to what is essentially a religion headed by porn addled men, they are going to be hog sick.

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41 minutes ago, ehb102 said:

It really is a test of who is a liar and who isn't. Who is prepared to tell lies on a regular basis? Who claims the end justifies the means? When they realise they lost another election because they pandered to what is essentially a religion headed by porn addled men, they are going to be hog sick.

🤔 I'm not sure where the bit about  porn addicted men came from. But all this trans stuff is going way too far. It's beginning to erode the rights of women and the right of everyone to believe scientific fact. 

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51 minutes ago, ehb102 said:

It really is a test of who is a liar and who isn't. Who is prepared to tell lies on a regular basis? Who claims the end justifies the means? When they realise they lost another election because they pandered to what is essentially a religion headed by porn addled men, they are going to be hog sick.

Can you explain that comment so that I can understand it please?

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