flippermaj Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 Anyone got a Yildiz Wildfowlers SxS 3.5 inch chamber model? If so what is the recoil like if your fire a 3.5 inch steel factory cart? I find a 3.5 inch cart through a pump gun quite a battle so guess it is much the same with the side by side??? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 I would hazard a guess and at 7lb in weight I would think with 3.5" cartridges it would kick like a mule. I have an old Kestrel and reckon it's 8lb+ and that's not bad with 3" Eley lightening 3's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 I think it'll kick hard. Personally I don't shoot anything heavier than 24g through a SxS or O/U. Anything heavier I leave to a gas operated semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 If you feel recoil you are going to be rattled about shooting a heavy load from a light gun. As far as I’m aware from (F=ma) the size of shot and length of cartridge has nothing to do with felt recoil. Felt recoil factors include: 1. Weight of shot being fired 2. Weight of gun being fired 3. Type of propellant 4. Mount 5. Recoil absorbing pad etc 6. Weight of man firing the gun For wildfowling a 3.5” chamber allows you to fire larger payloads of steel. Which may still weigh less than the typical lead load you fire, thus be no further recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 14 hours ago, WalkedUp said: For wildfowling a 3.5” chamber allows you to fire larger payloads of steel. Which may still weigh less than the typical lead load you fire, thus be no further recoil. How many 3.5" steel loads have you put through a 7lb gun? Remember the increased length is associated with a bigger payload, and steel doesn't absorb energy by deforming like lead does ... that along with no cushioning section in the wad, and the type of propellant used (which you did list), and higher speeds that manufacturers seek to improve it's lethality mean that they certainly go with a wallop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Smokersmith said: (1) How many 3.5" steel loads have you put through a 7lb gun? (2) Remember the increased length is associated with a bigger payload, (3) and steel doesn't absorb energy by deforming like lead does ... 1. Plenty, that’s what I shoot geese with! 2. As stated in point 1 in the original response 3. Negligible impact upon the overall calculation considering the forces involved. Plastic wads frequently contain a cushioning section. Until someone can evidence to the contrary, I understand that the 50g 3” lead cartridges that exist will produce a far greater amount of recoil from any suitably chambered gun compared to firing 42g 3.5” steel at acceleration to similar velocities. If the OP wants to mock up the felt recoil simply find the weight of shot in the proposed 3.5” steel cartridge and then buy a box of equal mass lead cartridges in 2.75” or 3” length (to suit any current SxS gun he can access) and fire them. Edited October 4, 2021 by WalkedUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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