TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 Amen to the above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: The problem with 'too far right' politics, is that since the WW2, we have been bought up to fear it, and it's totalitarian connotations. Don't get me wrong, any extreme swing is dangerous and always authoritarian, but since WW2 , what kind of politics has been the one that has ended more freedoms, claimed more lives, and caused more division? Even today, in the 'civilised' West, Marxists and socialists are the politics of division, and seek to curtail freedom, if their is a voice that says 'let the economic migrants come' no matter what the consequences for our society, you can pretty much guarantee it comes from the left. Any complaints are met with the usual, 'You are all far right, racist, nazis'. When all they are is just people who want to see their taxes spent on things that benefit the country they live in. They say the right is the politics of hatred, but the left hate the right with a passion, and don't like themselves very much either. When do you ever see the tories call the Labour Party 'scum' or shout expletives across the chamber at question Time? This hatred for the right makes anything right of centre, very dodgy ground in the mindset of a nation bought up on war films, that depicts the axis as evil people whose right wing madness destroyed Europe and perpetuated the holocaust. GOOD POST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 People are totally unaware that the "Nazi Party" actually started off as a socialist party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, discobob said: People are totally unaware that the "Nazi Party" actually started off as a socialist party National socialist German workers party, designed to fight against losing 'workers' or working class, to communism. So not socialists in the same vein as we know them today. However, its interesting to note even today, how left leaning , socialists , or even full blooded communists, still see anything that goes right of their mentality, as the enemy. Couple that with a little perceived class warfare, and back to the 1930s we go The problem is , very few people live in the type of starvation level poverty of 100 years ago , yet these peculiar ideals still remain. The idea that those on the left, are somehow , morally 'in the right' and those on the right , are somehow 'wrong' , is bewildering.... Even more so , when the purveyors of marxism or socialism , are all champagne swilling multi millionaires ! Anyway, my point is , its not morally wrong to not be a fan of uncontrolled immigration, especially when they arrive illegally, its a bad start to any relationship, when the other party kicks your door in and demands entry, board and lodging? But we are lead to believe that supporting a government , or having even the thought of it , puts you back in time , and dresses you in the garb of the ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rewulf said: But we are lead to believe that supporting a government , or having even the thought of it , puts you back in time , and dresses you in the garb of the ss. Totally forgetting the activities of the NKVD who in many opinions were actually worse than the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Y-B On aside from topic - I dont often see mention of 'NKVD' - interesting tis raised and drew a wry smile! L Edited January 20, 2022 by Loki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Totally forgetting the activities of the NKVD who in many opinions were actually worse than the SS. Like I said before , the lefties , who demonise the right , historically, are far more guilty of totalitarianism , authoritarianism , and outright mass murder, than any right leaning group ...by a country mile ! Yet , as many seem to be espousing socialism , or as I call it , communism lite, they tell us its the 'far' right we have to worry about ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rewulf said: The problem with 'too far right' politics, is that since the WW2, we have been bought up to fear it, and it's totalitarian connotations. Don't get me wrong, any extreme swing is dangerous and always authoritarian, but since WW2 , what kind of politics has been the one that has ended more freedoms, claimed more lives, and caused more division? Even today, in the 'civilised' West, Marxists and socialists are the politics of division, and seek to curtail freedom, if their is a voice that says 'let the economic migrants come' no matter what the consequences for our society, you can pretty much guarantee it comes from the left. Any complaints are met with the usual, 'You are all far right, racist, nazis'. When all they are is just people who want to see their taxes spent on things that benefit the country they live in. They say the right is the politics of hatred, but the left hate the right with a passion, and don't like themselves very much either. When do you ever see the tories call the Labour Party 'scum' or shout expletives across the chamber at question Time? This hatred for the right makes anything right of centre, very dodgy ground in the mindset of a nation bought up on war films, that depicts the axis as evil people whose right wing madness destroyed Europe and perpetuated the holocaust. Excellent post that and I agree completely. I'm sure virtually nobody wants to see a far right party get in, I certainly don't. The problem for years has been the voting choice for the British public has been either the Conservatives a centralist party who talk a good game but in reality have some leftist policices and Labour, who are a leftist party who at times virtually border on extreme left. Neither party will change those policies, even if they will say what the electorate want to hear at times because both partys know they're running in a two horse race where they will take turns at winning. It is long past time that these partys need showing that we're not afraid to give other parties a try if they continue to refuse to deliver what the general public, but particularly the working class want. Edited January 20, 2022 by 12gauge82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Conservatives a centralist party who talk a good game but in reality have some leftist policices and Labour, who are a leftist party who at times virtually border on extreme left. I have a hypothesis- New Labour was dressed in Blue and stole the centre ground from Cons. The current Cons are dressed in red and are taking left ground away from labour -because they broke the red wall with Brexit and they see taking the left as a way of keeping the red seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 Good to see the fascists putting their hands up at last, I'm sure that those who gave their lives to stop them entering this country are getting agitated in the graves they should be resting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, henry d said: Good to see the fascists putting their hands up at last, I'm sure that those who gave their lives to stop them entering this country are getting agitated in the graves they should be resting in. What on earth are you rambling on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, henry d said: Good to see the fascists putting their hands up at last, I rest my case 🤣 You can't even talk about it, without some one accusing you of being one! I think, for the sake of those who live here NOW, that more 3rd world illegal immigration is not good for this country. If that makes me a fascist in the eyes of some, then so be it, but methinks they don't understand the definition. And that's being nice and polite about it. Edited January 20, 2022 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, henry d said: Good to see the fascists putting their hands up at last, I'm sure that those who gave their lives to stop them entering this country are getting agitated in the graves they should be resting in. That is desperate, and a total own goal. Yeah let’s squash a discussion by reaching for a label. The reach for WW2 reference I have to laugh at. You do realise you’re the only one acting like a facist? A fag paper between Hitler and Stalin in their modus operandi save of course that Stalin killed way more people. The modern woke left are idealist facists and as bad as those they seek to decry. Edited January 20, 2022 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 10 hours ago, henry d said: Good to see the fascists putting their hands up at last, I'm sure that those who gave their lives to stop them entering this country are getting agitated in the graves they should be resting in. I'd also like to add it is some of my family that are resting in those graves in foreign lands. Them and many like them are the reason you can speak as you do, no matter how ridiculous I believe your opinions are, I would also fight to ensure we are all allowed to continue to express them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 I saw this and immediately thought of this thread: Nick Freitas (@NickForVA) Tweeted: Enough. I have had it, my constituents have had it, and I am no longer going to sit here while a member of this body accuses us of being bigots simply because we disagree on policy. https://t.co/dx0uMyFmnB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beazley Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 01/01/2022 at 13:58, Weihrauch17 said: Says someone who can't use punctuation! edit...WRITES someone, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Mungler said: I saw this and immediately thought of this thread: Nick Freitas (@NickForVA) Tweeted: Enough. I have had it, my constituents have had it, and I am no longer going to sit here while a member of this body accuses us of being bigots simply because we disagree on policy. https://t.co/dx0uMyFmnB I like that, very very much. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scully said: I like that, very very much. 👍 Absolutely 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Scully said: I like that, very very much. According to some , just being white makes you a racist, its supposedly 'endemic' within us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Easy solution either dont pick them up, or pick them up take them to Dover for medical check, dns, finger printing and pics and then return them to a perfectly safe France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: According to some , just being white makes you a racist, its supposedly 'endemic' within us ? So, as they claim, we are all the same irrespective of race, would mean that it is endemic in everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 08:11, 12gauge82 said: I'd also like to add it is some of my family that are resting in those graves in foreign lands. Them and many like them are the reason you can speak as you do, no matter how ridiculous I believe your opinions are, I would also fight to ensure we are all allowed to continue to express them. Amen to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Fleeing war and persecution. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10510223/amp/Tunisian-womens-posts-glamorize-risky-migrant-crossings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ditchman Posted April 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 MEANWHILE the count today ......this years tally (so far)........of rubber boat "migrants" is just a tad over 4500 all of them young fit men......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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