Newbie to this Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: This is utter madness, all over the news about housing shortages and house prices being inflated due to demand, this year alone we've had over 20k land here without a single deportation, they're all housed somewhere, just where will it end. With politics moving further and further right, until we get a party that will deal with it??? Edited November 4, 2021 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: With politics moving further and further right, until we get a party will deal with it??? know excactly what you mean.............its frightening even to think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'd love to see farage lead a party and see how it went, we had labour under Blair for years it couldn't possibly be worse than that and I'm sure farage would make some changes this country is desperate for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Where's Ms Prattle now? Skulking along with the rest i assume? 5 Star and couldn't give a monkeys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 hours ago, ditchman said: 456 migrants landed yesterday....(2nd nov) in excess of 800 today (3rd nov) companies in Turkey are reported to be making a new generation of inflatables that will carry 200 persons severe shortage of 40hp outboards as supplied by south africa....so now they are starting to use 30hp outboards i know it sounds a bit too simple but why cant these manufacturers and suppliers be stamped on eh ? The really big inflatables that carry up to 200 are expected next year. Currently used on the Med/Adriatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Penelope said: The really big inflatables that carry up to 200 are expected next year. Currently used on the Med/Adriatic. They'll likely need three or four French patrol boats to escort them half way across - and similar UK coastguard boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 03/11/2021 at 21:02, ditchman said: 456 migrants landed yesterday....(2nd nov) in excess of 800 today (3rd nocompanies in Turkey are reported to be making a new generation of inflatables that will carry 200 persons severe shortage of 40hp outboards as supplied by south africa....so now they are starting to use 30hp outboards i know it sounds a bit too simple but why cant these manufacturers and suppliers be stamped on eh ? Just wondering if la grenouille are funding this boat enterprise behind closed doors? Turkey hoping that their covert co-operation will speed their access to the EU proper? Stranger things have happened at sea as the saying goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 03/11/2021 at 21:02, ditchman said: 456 migrants landed yesterday....(2nd nov) in excess of 800 today (3rd nov) companies in Turkey are reported to be making a new generation of inflatables that will carry 200 persons severe shortage of 40hp outboards as supplied by south africa....so now they are starting to use 30hp outboards i know it sounds a bit too simple but why cant these manufacturers and suppliers be stamped on eh ? can I ask what happens to the outboards once they get here? and the inflatables for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Vince Green said: can I ask what happens to the outboards once they get here? and the inflatables for that matter? Stored in an open air compound according to photo seen somewhere? Possibly in case of property reclaim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 The numbers now crossin g are the biggest ever and its poorer weather. Wait till the calm summer days thousands a day will be over. You,will be lucky to find an hotel vacancy , they will be rammed full with migrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRINITY said: The numbers now crossin g are the biggest ever and its poorer weather. Wait till the calm summer days thousands a day will be over. You,will be lucky to find an hotel vacancy , they will be rammed full with migrants. The country has to spend its surplus cash somewhere... hotel owners have brown envelopes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 If you tried to enter America without the proper paperwork (and now presumably covid certification as well) It would be go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect £200. And out again the next day Any possibility of sorting out your paperwork later (including claiming asylum) would be hugely difficult to the point that you could say its impossible. Same as Israel, people bring their paperwork because they know that without it there is no chance of ever getting in set the bar high and see who clears it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 There is a hotel near me that is housing migrants all men and claims of £100 per day to accomodate them yet there are forces veterans without homes it will get worse .Check out migrants in Sweden the migrants are nearly equal to the native population and breeding so fast they will outnumber Swedes in a few years.The Mayor of Calais said our welfare state is to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 7 hours ago, armsid said: The Mayor of Calais said our welfare state is to blame Nail on the head. Why else would they pass through so many other countries to get to this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Maybe we need a few reports of, 'Great White sharks seen in the channel attacking inflatables.' Are you feeling lucky, "Eh?"....................Bloody sick of it. Edited November 6, 2021 by Robden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 The thing is, all thus is so easy to fix. Simply tow everyone back to France and that route would stop within a week once they knew it wasn't viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 In cities like Sheffield the local left wing politicians are so proud of their 'city of sanctuary ' and invite the rest of the planet to come to live there. But then they are the first to bleat on about homelessness ,lack of affordable housing and insufficient public services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, TRINITY said: In cities like Sheffield the local left wing politicians are so proud of their 'city of sanctuary ' and invite the rest of the planet to come to live there. But then they are the first to bleat on about homelessness ,lack of affordable housing and insufficient public services. Its ridiculous isn't it. Its like they think they live on an episode of startrek where you can always do the nice thing. I'd like to live in a world where you can help everyone and there was an endless amount of resources and money for everyone, but as we know, unfortunately life doesn't work like that. Some of these people need to wake up and understand that the decisions they make, like not immediately deporting these economic migrants has damaging consequences for others like those you've mentioned. It even has damaging consequences for other migrants as it attracts others to attempt the same and I believe 3 people at lest died last week in an attempted crossing. It really needs getting a grip of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 13:50, Vince Green said: If we didn't give them all the handouts, would they want to come here? Yes. As here we speak English. The second language taught in most non-English foreign countries. The handouts are less relevant to that fact. And I'd say that for that reason most economic migrants to Europe from French speaking West Africa don't come here to the UK but make their final destination the three Francophone countries on the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: Yes. As here we speak English. The second language taught in most non-English foreign countries. The handouts are less relevant to that fact. And I'd say that for that reason most economic migrants to Europe from French speaking West Africa don't come here to the UK but make their final destination the three Francophone countries on the continent. So do most European countries. The point is though, whether they want to comehere or not, they shouldn't be aloud to, unless there is a genuine legal reason. At the moment anyone can jump in a dingy and they'll get to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 Another boat full , we counted at least 25, coming in to Sandgate beach, shadowed by the Dungeness Lifeboat. Lots of sirens going off now as the Police come to collect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 OH and me regularly watch the ‘Saving Lives at Sea’ programme, and just the other week it showed a lifeboat rescuing migrants from an inflatable. Now I’m not for one second criticising the lifeboat crew as they are just doing their job, but a crew member echoed something my OH did when they mentioned how desperate must someone be to escape persecution, to risk the lives of their children trying to get to the UK? I’m of the opinion that if they were so desperate to escape persecution in their own country, what is it that is so terrible about Spain, Italy, France or any other democratic countries they have passed through, which makes them think….’I know what we’ll do, we’ll give some dodgy blokes in France all our money to set us and the kids adrift in an overladen dinghy in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.’ 🤔 Cynic? Me? The atmosphere in the house was a tad icy that night! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 thought i would just point out .....that on thursday over 1000 "poor migrants"...arrived on this septered isle...... this is sooner or later going to bring the govt down.....it will also see extreme far right parties get elected into parliament....so this problem really needs to be sorted soon.......by someone who has got the balls to do it.....it will be painful......but not as painful if it is just shovelled into a corner and left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ditchman said: thought i would just point out .....that on thursday over 1000 "poor migrants"...arrived on this septered isle...... this is sooner or later going to bring the govt down.....it will also see extreme far right parties get elected into parliament....so this problem really needs to be sorted soon.......by someone who has got the balls to do it.....it will be painful......but not as painful if it is just shovelled into a corner and left Succinct Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 sorry ....mistake have to revise the migrant figure.....BBC reports 1200 for thursday 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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