RSPCA RELEASE SQUIRREL TRAPPED IN BIRD FEEDER

[Rookandrabbit]

Just watched this video on the bbc News website ……… this looks like a grey squirrel ! Is this still not an invasive species, Invasive non-native (alien) animal species: rules in England and Wales ? Does this legislation not apply to the RSPCA ? Does the law regarding releasing invasive species back into the environment not apply…….. Just asking for a friend!

 

[Walker570]

I would think the law does apply but what else do you expect from the RSPCA

[scarecrow243]

In Scotland you are not allowed to release greys if found in traps i don't know England's  rule on this

[JTaylor91]

10 minutes ago, scarecrow243 said:

In Scotland you are not allowed to release greys if found in traps i don't know England's  rule on this

Same rule in England I believe.

[Dave-G]

Link to the video please.

[Scully]

I believe you require a license to do so? Perhaps they have one? 🤷‍♂️

[Bigbob]

Why no release the squirrel they release every other vermin know to man 

[Rookandrabbit]

I have tried to send a link but sorry can’t seem to do it maybe somebody more adept can help. It’s on the bbc News website under England titled Greedy Squirrel Released from bird feeder. Thanks in advance.

[Mullard83]

Just seen that. It states the squirrel was in a garden in Banstead Surrey. Wonder if BASC will release a statement condemning them 🤔 as the RSPCA, WJ etc are quick to jump on the shooting community at every opportunity & take legal action.

[wymberley]

19 minutes ago, Scully said:

I believe you require a license to do so? Perhaps they have one? 🤷‍♂️

Yes, however as I understand it those licenses were not to be renewed and consequently releasing has been illegal since Dec 1 2019

[powler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-59333484

Hopefully this link will work.

[Stimo22]

There is a couple of cases on the BBC news sites, it says that they can only be released in situ legally not after rescue and rehabilitation.

[Rookandrabbit]

Thanks for submitting the link but just been looking into the legislation regarding  Invasive Alien species and it states: 

Releasing an accidentally restrained animal

If an animal has been accidentally caught, for example, it’s trapped in wire netting, you can release it. This is not considered intentional release.

So this is why they can release them I will let my friend know !!

[Mullard83]

2 hours ago, Rookandrabbit said:

Thanks for submitting the link but just been looking into the legislation regarding  Invasive Alien species and it states: 

Releasing an accidentally restrained animal

If an animal has been accidentally caught, for example, it’s trapped in wire netting, you can release it. This is not considered intentional release.

So this is why they can release them I will let my friend know !!

Thanks for taking the time to find that out & share. I must admit I wasn`t aware of this part of legislation myself. 👍

[Rookandrabbit]

Thanks Powler for getting the link to work I seemed to just get gobbledegook and numbers when I tried. And thanks Mullard83 yes, I am never to old to learn just shows how stupid I was yesterday!! As I have learned a lot more today.

[Dave-G]

3 hours ago, powler said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-59333484

Hopefully this link will work.

Thanks for that - I can see both sides of the conflict. Politics will be blurring the issues.

[scolopax]

only the same as Muntjac, if you found a Muntjac trapped in someway would you feel obliged to kill it ?

 

live and let live,  teh RSPCA deserve flak for some of their activities, mainly historical, but this is not one of them. IMO. 

[old man]

Not the same at all?

One is vermin the other a deer.

In answer to your question, personally if the deer was injured the correct answer should surely be yes but humanely depending on circumstance? To be carted off for treatment must be inhumane to such a highly strung creature?

Adult Muntjac  can give severe puncture injuries so should be treated with care and could not now  legally be released after treatment anyway? 

[Mice!]

On 18/11/2021 at 12:58, Rookandrabbit said:

Thanks for submitting the link but just been looking into the legislation regarding  Invasive Alien species and it states: 

Releasing an accidentally restrained animal

If an animal has been accidentally caught, for example, it’s trapped in wire netting, you can release it. This is not considered intentional release.

So this is why they can release them I will let my friend know !!

That's the issue,  it was trapped accidentally. This question has popped up everywhere,  had it been released in say Penrith or Perth I could well understand it being an issue,  but the RSPCA were never going to put down a squirrel trapped in a bird feeder in Surrey.

[hodge911]

On 18/11/2021 at 12:58, Rookandrabbit said:

Thanks for submitting the link but just been looking into the legislation regarding  Invasive Alien species and it states: 

Releasing an accidentally restrained animal

If an animal has been accidentally caught, for example, it’s trapped in wire netting, you can release it. This is not considered intentional release.

So this is why they can release them I will let my friend know !!

Maybe so but they still break the rules at every chance there's  loads of videos been on TV where they release them from being trapped take them to a rehabilitation  centre keep them there for observation  then take them for release a few days later .....

 

We've  also shot "urban foxes" on the estate that have been treated for whatever and released on the private  land of the estate .

Easily identified as they have no real fear of humans and make no attempt to run off when the lamp goes on .

but all of them also had shaved patches of fur for canular insertion some also had stitches.

We also seen on occasions  an unmarked white van releasing them and drive off quickly .

[steve s×s]

On 18/11/2021 at 12:32, Scully said:

I believe you require a license to do so? Perhaps they have one? 🤷‍♂️

Maybe an incompetence certificate would be appropriate 😀

[old man]

Seemingly they have tried to modernise as they found a large number of sponsors were ticked off at the frivolous way their donations were squandered?

Not enough for me to have any faith there yet.

[RockySpears]

On 19/11/2021 at 17:11, old man said:

One is vermin the other a deer.

  Define "vermin".  Is it not any animal that is in the wrong place at the wrong time?  Invasive species would seem to always be vermin, but not all vermin are invasives.

Muntjac are vermin if there are 200 of them munching their way through your crops, no?

 

RS

 

[old man]

13 minutes ago, RockySpears said:

  Define "vermin".  Is it not any animal that is in the wrong place at the wrong time?  Invasive species would seem to always be vermin, but not all vermin are invasives.

Muntjac are vermin if there are 200 of them munching their way through your crops, no?

 

RS

 

Definitely not Rocky, Muntjac are Deer according to the BDS and legislated as such.

[pigeon controller]

This invasive species law is most strange and not clear at all as per the following:-

Rabbits not native introduced by the Roman??

Mink released by animal activists??

Grey Squirrels introduced by the Victorians

Muntjac , Victorians ??

The River Trust quiet happily remove Zander as they can sell them in the fish market as Bass??

they do nothing about the American Crayfish and Mitten crabs??

These facts may not be accurate but you can see what I’m getting at, it would appear that these charities do not want to comply with the law as it may affect there funding from the public.

RANT OVER