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Hi

i have a small antler I’d like to use on a staff but with it being relatively fine looking for a Ash (or ?) staff that’s not going to look too thick when joining to the antler 

Never done anything like that before so have a rough idea from YouTube but would appreciate anyone who is expert providing any help / tips

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Hi Downforce, shame you're not closer to North Norfolk as I would have sorted you something out you might be better off looking for a blackthorn shank as you will get strength from a thinner size..but other than saying drill out the antler (depending on how thick it is at the base) and either glue in a length of thread or taper and glue the shank to it ...have fun...

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17 hours ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

Hi Downforce, shame you're not closer to North Norfolk as I would have sorted you something out you might be better off looking for a blackthorn shank as you will get strength from a thinner size..but other than saying drill out the antler (depending on how thick it is at the base) and either glue in a length of thread or taper and glue the shank to it ...have fun...

Actually - we do have relatives that will probably be travelling to North Norfolk for Christmas with the family so may be able to do something if thats practical I could ask them where exactly they'll be and if its feasible to meet up?

Thanks also to everyone for the feedback and tips - I really want to make a nice job of it

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3 hours ago, Downforce said:

Actually - we do have relatives that will probably be travelling to North Norfolk for Christmas with the family so may be able to do something if thats practical I could ask them where exactly they'll be and if its feasible to meet up?

Thanks also to everyone for the feedback and tips - I really want to make a nice job of it

D

Hi Downforce I'm about 8 miles from Cromer and if I can help in any way please let me know ...what sort of diameter at the base is antler so I can make sure I have something straightened for you...👌

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9 minutes ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

Hi Downforce I'm about 8 miles from Cromer and if I can help in any way please let me know ...what sort of diameter at the base is antler so I can make sure I have something straightened for you...👌

What a cracking offer.

PW at its very best again.:good:

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2 hours ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

Hi Downforce I'm about 8 miles from Cromer and if I can help in any way please let me know ...what sort of diameter at the base is antler so I can make sure I have something straightened for you...👌

Thanks so much that’s an excellent offer 

Now I’m going to show my lack of skill here

Its pretty small and the base is oval and it splays out so I’m assuming I need to cut it square - estimating where that would be it looks like about just over 20mm on the wider part and around 15mm on the narrow part - that’s the outside measurement 

Does that make sense how I’ve described it?

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3 hours ago, Downforce said:

Thanks so much that’s an excellent offer 

Now I’m going to show my lack of skill here

Its pretty small and the base is oval and it splays out so I’m assuming I need to cut it square - estimating where that would be it looks like about just over 20mm on the wider part and around 15mm on the narrow part - that’s the outside measurement 

Does that make sense how I’ve described it?

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That certainly doesn't leave you a lot to play with when it comes to what length you need as the bottom is going to be very thin.. no you don't need to square it off you can just cut the top  of your stick to the same angle as the base of your antler..but with a lack of thickness to it,your adjoining rod is going to have to be thin..  Do you have an idea what length you are looking for and I'm thinking that as it's oval in shape possibly a Holly shank might work...

 Cheers DB..

 

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9 hours ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

Do you have an idea what length you are looking for

Just to make it a bit harder, I'm quite tall so probably on the longer side to be armpit/shoulder height, I estimate about 5ft/1m50 but as i said Im new to this so will listen to any advice I notice (it seems from the picture) Stimo's seem to be more waist height(?).

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Hard to judge from the picture the size. I have just picked up some bits in the shed which if not medals will be close to and they are barely any thicker. The head on the top  of the three heads in the first picture is a good silver (measured) for comparison and the others are at the least very close to it. Whilst a bit thicker its not so much.

If you PM me your address I will gladly post an antler to you in return for a picture of the finished article on here. 

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3 hours ago, Downforce said:

Just to make it a bit harder, I'm quite tall so probably on the longer side to be armpit/shoulder height, I estimate about 5ft/1m50 but as i said Im new to this so will listen to any advice I notice (it seems from the picture) Stimo's seem to be more waist height(?).

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I'm afraid trying to find anything usable at 5' tall and only 20mm at the top is going to be a hard ask...infact the only sticks I have that thin are around the 4' mark...

DB....

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1 hour ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

I'm afraid trying to find anything usable at 5' tall and only 20mm at the top is going to be a hard ask...infact the only sticks I have that thin are around the 4' mark...

DB....

Understood

Thats why I need help 🙂

 

2 hours ago, oowee said:

Hard to judge from the picture the size. I have just picked up some bits in the shed which if not medals will be close to and they are barely any thicker. The head on the top  of the three heads in the first picture is a good silver (measured) for comparison and the others are at the least very close to it. Whilst a bit thicker its not so much.

If you PM me your address I will gladly post an antler to you in return for a picture of the finished article on here. 

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Wow thats awesome

Thanks for the very generous offer but Im not sure if ill be able to live up to expectations

Will PM later

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20211209_143547.jpg.43e70b0564c14e0017067ac3cdcb86c3.jpg20211209_143329.jpg.0d7e030826474edd8b0842e792e63659.jpgI have just been straightening a sticks that I have found out that is  Damson plum not blackthorn but it is a fraction over the 20mm (about 21mm) 20211209_143547.jpg.43e70b0564c14e0017067ac3cdcb86c3.jpgbut it is just over the 5' there is a little cracking on the end but this could be removed and I'm sure will be perfectly usable though a little flimsy...if this is a any use you are welcome...

 

DB....

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6 hours ago, Downforce said:

Just to make it a bit harder, I'm quite tall so probably on the longer side to be armpit/shoulder height, I estimate about 5ft/1m50 but as i said Im new to this so will listen to any advice I notice (it seems from the picture) Stimo's seem to be more waist height(?).

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Not waist height, they vary between 43” and 50”, general rule is the max height to just infer the arm pit

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1 hour ago, gamekeeper1960 said:

20211209_143547.jpg.43e70b0564c14e0017067ac3cdcb86c3.jpg20211209_143329.jpg.0d7e030826474edd8b0842e792e63659.jpgI have just been straightening a sticks that I have found out that is  Damson plum not blackthorn but it is a fraction over the 20mm (about 21mm) 20211209_143547.jpg.43e70b0564c14e0017067ac3cdcb86c3.jpgbut it is just over the 5' there is a little cracking on the end but this could be removed and I'm sure will be perfectly usable though a little flimsy...if this is a any use you are welcome...

 

DB....

That would be tremendous thanks I just need to find out if i can get to collect

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