Gordon R Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Guilty. No great surprise. Legal team are instantly talking appeal. I assume they just can't get enough of her money, not that she has anything better to spend it on at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 wonder if andrew is starting to get a bit twtchy..........she might spill stuff to make things easier in the nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 I'd sing like a canary if I was her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 A possible sixty year sentence. What a waste of a life. 1 minute ago, walshie said: I'd sing like a canary if I was her. Yep, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 I think her time to sing like a canary is well past. She refused to defend herself and will die in prison. Like Scully says, "what a waste of a life" and the spoiling of many young lives too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, walshie said: I'd sing like a canary if I was her. Her partner in crime probably tried that tack , it lead to security camera malfunction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 She is 60 I believe. I doubt any 'singing' would reduce the sentence by much; singing after the verdict is returned is rather closing the door after the horse has bolted. If it was reduced from the possible maximum stated above of 60 years (I have also seen 40 suggested) by say 50%, it is still likely to be all or most of the rest of her life inside. The lawyers will have made a lot in this trial, and will make a lot more on any appeal. I am assuming that a whole raft of civil cases for 'compensation' and 'damages' may now arise - if she has any apparent money to be claimed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 She has a lot of property that will have to be sold to settle all of the civil cases that will come now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 She's a vile woman but it wouldn't make any difference if my sentence was reduced or not. I wouldn't carry the can alone while all those sex cases watched on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 I suspect she withheld names, as she might have got lucky and been acquitted. I have almost zero knowledge of the USA legal system, but think she might well get a reduced sentence in exchange for names. In addition, she could be given a "nicer" jail. If she names people, her life might well be at risk, but I think anyone would prefer to be looking over their shoulder outside prison, rather than actually in prison. One way or another, I would be surprised if she is still in jail in 5 years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: She has a lot of property that will have to be sold to settle all of the civil cases that will come now. I would strongly suspect most of that would be out of reach to the authorities and already transferred or gifted to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, TRINITY said: I would strongly suspect most of that would be out of reach to the authorities and already transferred or gifted to others. I heard on the radio that the aggrieved parties were paid out a long time ago, a point made by one of their lawyers when asked if it was all about the money. So who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 She may well get some leeway by offering to NOT spill the beans re Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 I haven’t really followed this one very closely , but , what did she get from the situation ?, did she get some kind of pervy sexual pleasure from it ?, or was she in it for money / status etc ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, mel b3 said: what did she get from the situation She had been 'brought up' with a VERY arrogant bullying father (Robert Maxwell) as his favourite offspring - and he spent freely (other peoples money as it turned out) and they had a lavish lifestyle, stately home outside Oxford, private ocean going yacht (called the Lady Ghislaine) - a very rich lifestyle - all paid for by his employees pensions funds - which he stole and spent. When "it" all hit the fan after his mysterious disappearance/suicide when it must have been clear to him that the writing was on the walland he was about to be found out ...... she risked loosing all that. But she was clever and manipulative - and had a very full address/contact book of 'high society' and wealthy contacts - Prince Andrew and others - and she had inherited her father's devious skills in getting what she wanted, legal or otherwise. She found Epstein (who had no contacts or 'social set skills') and it seems that he paid all the bills and provided the ultra lavish jet set lifestyle she wanted - and she in return introduced Epstein to 'society' and 'contacts' where he could make money. At least that is what everyone thought at the time. It seems that she was also introducing him to the victims of this court case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 She's been found guilty, serves her right. My thoughts are with the people who've suffered as a result of her selfish actions. If Mr Andrew Windsor is complicit then he needs to face trial too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ricko said: If Mr Andrew Windsor is complicit then he needs to face trial too. Never happen , but by god Id love to see his face if he ever had to go to court as a defendant , entitled little ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, mel b3 said: I haven’t really followed this one very closely , but , what did she get from the situation ?, did she get some kind of pervy sexual pleasure from it ?, or was she in it for money / status etc ?. shares in a international ginger organisation....import/export.......HQ in Tipton UK i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-challenges-accuser-virginia-giuffres-residency-status-in-bid-to-have-sex-abuse-case-thrown-out-12505410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: She had been 'brought up' with a VERY arrogant bullying father (Robert Maxwell) as his favourite offspring - and he spent freely (other peoples money as it turned out) and they had a lavish lifestyle, stately home outside Oxford, private ocean going yacht (called the Lady Ghislaine) - a very rich lifestyle - all paid for by his employees pensions funds - which he stole and spent. When "it" all hit the fan after his mysterious disappearance/suicide when it must have been clear to him that the writing was on the walland he was about to be found out ...... she risked loosing all that. But she was clever and manipulative - and had a very full address/contact book of 'high society' and wealthy contacts - Prince Andrew and others - and she had inherited her father's devious skills in getting what she wanted, legal or otherwise. She found Epstein (who had no contacts or 'social set skills') and it seems that he paid all the bills and provided the ultra lavish jet set lifestyle she wanted - and she in return introduced Epstein to 'society' and 'contacts' where he could make money. At least that is what everyone thought at the time. It seems that she was also introducing him to the frvictims of this court case. I already knew of her fathers vile history , and suppose that it makes sense that she wanted to keep hold of her lavish lifestyle , no matter how low she had to sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, toxo said: She may well get some leeway by offering to NOT spill the beans re Andrew. Not many outside of England really cares about what happens to him so I would be very suprised if any information makes a difference. /Markus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: shares in a international ginger organisation....import/export.......HQ in Tipton UK i believe For some reason, that reminded me of parcels that I used to send to a mate. I'd wrap the parcels (snare pegs), in the shape of a large marital aid , and send them to his address , adding , managing director , gay and proud sex toys limited , and id post them signed for so that he had the pleasure of the postman smirking as he signed for the parcels 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Regarding Andrew, that girl was about 17 was she not. Girls of that age arnt daft, I can't accept that she was not a willing participant. If it had happened in UK she would have been a consenting adult. If Randy Andy had rogered a 15 year old, that's totally different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, TRINITY said: If it had happened in UK she would have been a consenting adult. Thats IF it happened in the UK ? The simple part is , hes a lying little toad, what else did he do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Sorry 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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