Sweet11-87 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) probably a daft question but has anyone else got birds of prey on their permission? and if so do they have an effect? ive had a decent size piece of land as permission for a few years and as long as ive been their so have a decent population of raptors. theyre amazing and i spend ages watching them going round on the thermals. had 3 in the air at once on one day. i think theyre mostly gosshawks but ive no idea really. The land has never been a red letter day piece of land even when theyre not about but it has its decent days. how much effect will they have?. Is it time to pack up when theyre out or do they just keep the pigeons on their toes? edit: its a big property with worked fields, livestock fields and a few timber plantations. and the place is void of rabbits. if that has anything to do with it Edited January 25, 2022 by Sweet11-87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Those birds will not be Goshawks, Buzzards more likely. What do you mean by effect? On the pigeon population or on song birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 There are a lot of buzzards on the local shoots, and around our area in general, if they have an effect on any kind of shooting, driven, rough, decoying or whatever, I can’t say I’ve noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffgg Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Six buzzards fly round my perm with no problems. more damage is dun by the magpies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Great to see the raptors too many buzzards i think but we have Goshawk, Little owl, Tawny owl , Red kite, peregrine falcon, barn owl , sparrowhawk and the odd merlin We have a pheasant shoot and although a few get knocked off the chance to see these raptors is worth it All except the buzzards killing a dozen poults and taking none ! As above think corvids - magpies , crows do far more damage taking eggs and young Edited January 25, 2022 by jall25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Sweet11-87 said: how much effect will they have?. Is it time to pack up when theyre out or do they just keep the pigeons on their toes? I think folk are reading this wrong, I'm reading it as the buzzards (very unlikely to be Goshawk) mean the pigeons stop coming in for you? So do you pack up for the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Circa 40 buzzards in one field spotted by the land owner. I’ve seen 20 + in a single field. No major issue on returns. Obviously they take some birds but can’t be helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Best drive today with a buzzard wheeling above. Saw the same bird there three weeks ago so it must live in that piece of woodland. I have a pair in my small ten acre wood and they prey mainly on the few rabbits and enjoy the few squirrels I leave spread out for them. I have a large small bird popilation and around 40 pheasants roost there every night and maybe up to 50 to 100 woodpigeon. As said magpies jays and carrion crows do more damage. Edited January 25, 2022 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet11-87 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mice! said: I think folk are reading this wrong, I'm reading it as the buzzards (very unlikely to be Goshawk) mean the pigeons stop coming in for you? So do you pack up for the day. nah was asking if they would make the pigeons wary. and was asking if birds of prey are around if you might aswell pack up and go home but the answers from above seem to make me think their presence on my permission wont really effect the shooting. you lot are right they probably are buzzards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) I would suggest they are either Buzzards or Red Kites, more likely to be the latter if there are many of them. No they will not worry the wood pigeon population too much. Edited January 26, 2022 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 We have a fair few buzzards and they don’t seem to worry the pigeon population. When one decides to land in the trees, the pigeons already there take no notice. However, the odd marsh harrier hunting low over the dykes on the marsh certainly puts up any feeding pigeons. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 Last week while shooting I had two buzzards come over my decoys and one landed on the hedge along from my hide as there was a bird at the foot of the hedge. We often find eaten birds when you walk the perimeter of the field. These can be winged birds hit with overshot and drop out of the trees later. The birds seem to know I’m a food source as the appear when I start shooting?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, pigeon controller said: Last week while shooting I had two buzzards come over my decoys and one landed on the hedge along from my hide as there was a bird at the foot of the hedge. We often find eaten birds when you walk the perimeter of the field. These can be winged birds hit with overshot and drop out of the trees later. The birds seem to know I’m a food source as the appear when I start shooting?? Reminds me of hunting in Texas. The sky would be clear of activity until you fired a shot and it would suddenly fill with what they called buzzards, big black carrion cleaner uppers. We would gralloch beasts on site but by afternoon there would only be a slight blood stain on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sweet11-87 said: probably a daft question but has anyone else got birds of prey on their permission? and if so do they have an effect? ive had a decent size piece of land as permission for a few years and as long as ive been their so have a decent population of raptors. theyre amazing and i spend ages watching them going round on the thermals. had 3 in the air at once on one day. i think theyre mostly gosshawks but ive no idea really. The land has never been a red letter day piece of land even when theyre not about but it has its decent days. how much effect will they have?. Is it time to pack up when theyre out or do they just keep the pigeons on their toes? edit: its a big property with worked fields, livestock fields and a few timber plantations. and the place is void of rabbits. if that has anything to do with it Whatever the effect, it's best you do not tamper with it? Leave well alone to do whatever role they carry out? Edited January 26, 2022 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet11-87 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, old man said: Whatever the effect, it's best you do not tamper with it? Leave well alone to do whatever role they carry out? well yeah that goes without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 I have had Buzzards /Peregrine/and Goss hit the birds on the magnet and still had a good days shooting here where we are in Wales we are over run with Goss there is a buzzard on every lamp post and nothing to see peregrines flying overhead all the shoots here suffer with Goss i have with ours for years they will land on the ground and run around footing the poults and to find them dead later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 I Pigeon shoot in an area with loads of Buzzards and Kites, they don't effect the shooting at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Hello, identify the birds might help, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 13:41, Sweet11-87 said: well yeah that goes without saying. With respect it does need saying as lots are unaware of the conditions surrounding birds and these may bring us into disrepute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Up the farm where I shoot there’s a fair number of red kites and one or two buzzards , don’t seem to worry the pigeons too much , plenty of game covers around so I guess it’s a good area to hunt and live , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankfirer Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 Seen buzzards around they definitely have an effect they are very good at moving the pigeon and crows around when it's quiet .they stop birds settling most of the time it helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 An old perm had a steep hill along one boundry, with the wind direction the buzzards would use this like a thermal, one landed in my decoy pattern about 20yds away from my hide. There were also Sparrow Hawks, had one land about 4ft above me as I lent against the tree trunk plus Kestrals. My last place of work in the middle of the Black Country had several Buzzards & often watched them soar overhead. My presant perms have Buzzards & Kestrals. When they appear do I pack up ? No, put the safety on, make safe, have a fag break & watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottletopbill Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 On my perm it is a nice sound when they call have seen up to six . See a spitfire most times both have a lovely sound and are a joy to sit and watch on a nice summer day in Kent. Will leave the buzzard a gift if they are about why would any one hurt them. Think most shooters love to sit and watch nature some times if the truth is told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 While decoying i sometimes see up to four buzzards overhead on the thermals they don't affect my shooting , But what worries me is on the way to my permission heading up the motorway you can see a buzzard sitting on roadside posts every 1/4 of a mile they are waiting on road kills so what happens when they get none ??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 I often have buzzards landing on my deeks and even carry off dead birds. I have also had a kestrel dive bombing and tackling plastic deeks. I put out deer and other carcases on the top of the field behind my house and I have a post set up for them to eat off. Local farmer is non too pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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