CaptC Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 It is alleged that Liz Truss flew to Australia by private jet costing the tax payers the incredible sum of £500,000!! A private government Airbus A321 creating almost 500 tonnes of CO2 emissions. As they say, you cannot make it up? How many air filters could the £500,000 have provided for schools? It cost more than any shady trade deal!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, CaptC said: As they say, you cannot make it up? How many air filters could the £500,000 have provided for schools? It cost more than any shady trade deal!! Outrageous. Are schools short of air filters then? I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, 39TDS said: Outrageous. Are schools short of air filters then? I didn't know that. A very limited supply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Alleged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Alleged - Still waiting for the story to be confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 It's small fry compared with the hideous amount of taxpayers money spent by the councils sending out thousands of gritters night after night when, after weeks without rain, there isn't the slightest risk of ice. As soon as the temp is forecast to drop to 2 degrees or below out go the gritters burning through thousands of gallons of diesel and covering the roads with filthy slime. I'd guess the emissions would be pretty horrendous too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Westward said: It's small fry compared with the hideous amount of taxpayers money spent by the councils sending out thousands of gritters night after night when, after weeks without rain, there isn't the slightest risk of ice. As soon as the temp is forecast to drop to 2 degrees or below out go the gritters burning through thousands of gallons of diesel and covering the roads with filthy slime. I'd guess the emissions would be pretty horrendous too. That’s because they have a budget for gritting the roads and if they don’t use the budget then they lose it for the following year, Stupid I know but that’s what happens when the world is run by accountants and balance sheets Edited January 27, 2022 by Mr.T . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Also they buy the grit ahead and it has a fairly short shelf life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Westward said: It's small fry compared with the hideous amount of taxpayers money spent by the councils sending out thousands of gritters night after night when, after weeks without rain, there isn't the slightest risk of ice. As soon as the temp is forecast to drop to 2 degrees or below out go the gritters burning through thousands of gallons of diesel and covering the roads with filthy slime. I'd guess the emissions would be pretty horrendous too. Early morning dew can be very dangerous in a ground frost with it being difficult to see. Betcha someone having an RTA would no doubt claim off the local authority if the roads weren't gritted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Early morning dew can be very dangerous in a ground frost with it being difficult to see. Betcha someone having an RTA would no doubt claim off the local authority if the roads weren't gritted. On average I'd say that there's about one night a year when gritting serves any purpose and in this county that's usually the very night they don't deploy the gritters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, CaptC said: It is alleged that Liz Truss flew to Australia by private jet costing the tax payers the incredible sum of £500,000!! A private government Airbus A321 creating almost 500 tonnes of CO2 emissions. As they say, you cannot make it up? How many air filters could the £500,000 have provided for schools? It cost more than any shady trade deal!! Who is governing the government ? ......another stupid decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, islandgun said: Who is governing the government ? ......another stupid decision Murdoch and the Russians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, islandgun said: Who is governing the government ? ......another stupid decision Seemingly no one in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Lets be honest if they forecast a frost and the local council did not grit the roads and a school bus crashed and god forbid some children got killed they hang drawn and quarter them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Lets be honest if they forecast a frost and the local council did not grit the roads and a school bus crashed and god forbid some children got killed they hang drawn and quarter them Our council doesnt seem to grit our roads anymore, they haven't for about ten years now. The next borough does grit its roads, but only the main roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 hours ago, CaptC said: It is alleged that Liz Truss flew to Australia by private jet costing the tax payers the incredible sum of £500,000!! A private government Airbus A321 creating almost 500 tonnes of CO2 emissions. As they say, you cannot make it up? How many air filters could the £500,000 have provided for schools? It cost more than any shady trade deal!! The official line is that as a cabinet minister she is entitled to use the plane when travelling. I guess most of us didn't know of the existence of this private jet but its obviously not sitting on the ground day after day not being used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 There are two jets. The other Johnson paid £90,000 to have it painted in patriotic colours. If they build a new Royal Yacht no doubt Johnson will be using it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: Our council doesnt seem to grit our roads anymore, they haven't for about ten years now. The next borough does grit its roads, but only the main roads. When it snows here every road leading to a main road is covered in snow. Getting into the village becomes a toboggan run, and don’t even get me started on all the verges high with bracken and bushes that may get a 6 inch cut once if your lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Vince Green said: The official line is that as a cabinet minister she is entitled to use the plane when travelling. I guess most of us didn't know of the existence of this private jet but its obviously not sitting on the ground day after day not being used here is the plane they haven't quite finished painting the tail yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 😃 - Free flights for Cressida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) On 28/01/2022 at 13:44, countryman said: When it snows here every road leading to a main road is covered in snow. Getting into the village becomes a toboggan run, and don’t even get me started on all the verges high with bracken and bushes that may get a 6 inch cut once if your lucky. When it snows properly, the councils should do the same as every other civilised country. Which is to plough the snow and then grit the roads. What happens here is that any time there's the least risk pf snow, out go the gritters before the snow starts. Snow settling onto gritted roads is far, far more slippery, problematic and dangerous than snow melting from the top down. I'm not against gritting as such, only that the councils use it as a form of blame avoidance rather than try to use it effectively. Edited January 30, 2022 by Westward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Our roads are never gritted, despite a school bus using them. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Westward said: When it snows properly, the councils should do the same as every other civilised country. Which is to plough the snow and then grit the roads. What happens here is that any time there's the least risk pf snow, out go the gritters before the snow starts. Snow settling onto gritted roads is far, far more slippery, problematic and dangerous than snow melting from the top down. I'm not against gritting as such, only that the councils use it as a form of blame avoidance rather than try to use it effectively. Westward . please don't take this the wrong way . You clearly have no understanding whatsoever of how road gritting works , and why its done . If you do a Google, it should all become clear mate 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 “We don’t need life jackets because this boat has never sunk before” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, mel b3 said: Westward . please don't take this the wrong way . You clearly have no understanding whatsoever of how road gritting works , and why its done . If you do a Google, it should all become clear mate 👍. Of course I understand that blame avoidance overrides everything else including public safety - exactly as it does with the police - but I just enjoy a rant. p.s. I also understand the physics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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