foxbasher Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Evening all, I've been rummaging around my local car boot sale and bought a few bits of uniform, mainly royal navy. In the pocket I found a few of these!!! They appear to be spent blank rounds that extend when fired?? I've never seen anything like it, does anyone know what these are please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Try a picture to the Imperial War Museum? Edited January 30, 2022 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Only guessing does it hold a airgun pellet fired by the energy from a primer for training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbasher Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 No idea, it does look like there is a recess in the front of the case to hold somthing. If it's an item that may get sombody in a sticky situation I would rather hand it in or get rid of to be honest. Never wanting to get in to trouble with a mystery item Looks like it may be similar to an 8mm round or 32acp maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 This is a 9mm Parabellum equivalent 'Force on force' fired cartridge case. Different examples are produced by a variety of companies. The most famous is probably, the 'simunition' brand. ATK / Speer / Federal make a similar round. Alternatively, you could wave the flag and go the UTM (Ultimate Training Munitions) route - they are made in the UK and used by quite a few police forces. That is what I believe yours is. I have a similar empty case sat on my desk as I type this. Have a look at UTMworldwide.com They produce paint marker rounds, target rounds, 'quiet' blanks etc. Regards Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Fires a paint ball (effectively) so they can run about shooting each other and not get shot. I've fired a few and they do their job. Used by military and police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Its called "simunition". The modern 9mm stuff is a metal case with a plastic piston, but it works the same. This captive piston allows the recoil operated pistol to function. Gas operated weapons like the rifle don't need this, so they just have a low powered charge and a lightweight bolt carrier. Edited January 31, 2022 by theshootist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbasher Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Amazing info guys, much appreciated. Would it get me in any trouble having them in my small collection. I know these police/military items can be a bit grey sometimes in the eyes of the law Edited January 31, 2022 by foxbasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 No! they are inert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 31/01/2022 at 17:51, foxbasher said: Amazing info guys, much appreciated. Would it get me in any trouble having them in my small collection. I know these police/military items can be a bit grey sometimes in the eyes of the law As tight choke says, it's a fired cartridge case. Not an issue. Loaded rounds (other than blank) are S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Look like simunnition, fired a bullet made out of chalk. We used to run around the woods popping each other with it until it was kinda outlawed. Not really illegal but the government said they wouldn’t buy any if the company continued to sale to the public Edited February 2, 2022 by NoBodyImportant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/9x19-airmunition/23845 quite a bit of info on another forum about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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