sandspider Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Hi folks Anyone renewed with Gwent recently? I sent my bits in nearly three months ago, well before the 8 weeks they suggest, and have heard nothing. My FAC expires in a couple of weeks. I emailed them to chase, and had an autoresponse saying don't email or phone to chase, it only slows things down further! It also says they will issue an 8 week extension as long as application was received in time, but it says if I don't receive an extension notification, I'll be commiting an offence. Anyone had a renewal recently? Did you get an extension notification automatically? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian willetts Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Hi sandspider my renewal took around 5 months I have firearms and shotgun certificates and I received no extension notice that was with Durham police my mate has had applications in for over a year had his inspection but still no tickets so good luck and hope you get it soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, sandspider said: Hi folks Anyone renewed with Gwent recently? I sent my bits in nearly three months ago, well before the 8 weeks they suggest, and have heard nothing. My FAC expires in a couple of weeks. I emailed them to chase, and had an autoresponse saying don't email or phone to chase, it only slows things down further! It also says they will issue an 8 week extension as long as application was received in time, but it says if I don't receive an extension notification, I'll be commiting an offence. Anyone had a renewal recently? Did you get an extension notification automatically? Thanks. I believe that South Wales Police are now handling Gwent. If you sent in your renewal forms in good time, then they have to issue you an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Where does licensing get the authority to ‘issue an extension’, and what is an ‘extension’? Is it an extended expiry date on current tickets? If so, again, where do they get the authority to do so, and is it a tangible extension ( something you can carry in your wallet ) or just something they say exists? If your tickets expire without you receiving your renewals, and the reason is down to them, then they are duty bound to issue a S7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Thanks both Steve, do you happen to know if the extension has to be requested, or will just appear automatically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, sandspider said: Thanks both Steve, do you happen to know if the extension has to be requested, or will just appear automatically? Again, ‘appear’ where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Scully said: Where does licensing get the authority to ‘issue an extension’, and what is an ‘extension’? Is it an extended expiry date on current tickets? If so, again, where do they get the authority to do so, and is it a tangible extension ( something you can carry in your wallet ) or just something they say exists? If your tickets expire without you receiving your renewals, and the reason is down to them, then they are duty bound to issue a S7. According to Gwent, it's an 8 week extension on the expiry date of current tickets. Don't know where they get the authority to do this (from themselves, I think!) and I don't think it's tangible - hoping someone here may know. Last time I asked them for a section 7 rather than them just saying it was OK, and I got my tickets the day the old one expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, sandspider said: According to Gwent, it's an 8 week extension on the expiry date of current tickets. Don't know where they get the authority to do this (from themselves, I think!) and I don't think it's tangible - hoping someone here may know. Last time I asked them for a section 7 rather than them just saying it was OK, and I got my tickets the day the old one expired. Thanks. Sounds very convenient for them! Try asking for a S7, it may work again! It didn’t work for me, ( Cumbria ) but I did get issued a S7 which she tried to persuade me I didn’t need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Biggest problem I have with a section 7 is you can't buy ammunition on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) The 8 week extension is Home Office guidance. I believe they have to send you an official letter/cover note. (But don't actually know this to be true) Edited February 3, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 i received an extension on my firearms + shotgun 5 weeks ago and says in the letter im still allowed to purchase ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Biggest problem I have with a section 7 is you can't buy ammunition on one. Shotgun cartridges are ok, apparently, but not according to my now retired FEO. I’m not too bothered about shotgun cartridges to be honest as I can’t recall ever being asked to show mine except at Westlands, when I didn’t have it. She stood and watched as a mate bought them and I then put them in my bag. 🤷♂️ S1 ammo is as you say, a definite no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, ant.mass said: i received an extension on my firearms + shotgun 5 weeks ago and says in the letter im still allowed to purchase ammo An 8 week extension is not a Section 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Isn't it about time our Organisations...not just BASC... started to whinge and whine at the Home Office about this? As Tax Payers we are supposedly paying for this very poor service by Police Forces. No good just going belly up and accepting that is how it goes. There are obviously some highly paid senior staff who are not staffing these departments adequately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Isn't it about time our Organisations...not just BASC... started to whinge and whine at the Home Office about this? As Tax Payers we are supposedly paying for this very poor service by Police Forces. No good just going belly up and accepting that is how it goes. There are obviously some highly paid senior staff who are not staffing these departments adequately. Totally agree, but the fact they don’t, won’t or can’t is why they no longer get my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 hours ago, sandspider said: Thanks both Steve, do you happen to know if the extension has to be requested, or will just appear automatically? I think that a letter is issued to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure they are really an "extension" as the start date of the new certificates may be backdated to the end date of the old ones. Edited February 3, 2022 by wyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 I think its more of a temporary one my guy said if my renewal don't come through in time I will get a temp one and no issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Cheers folks. I'll give them another week then request a section 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 Got the renewal one day before the expiry of the old one, after judicious prodding on my behalf. I see they have included the request to keep a fired catridge case for each weapon to help with ballistic investigation if my guns are ever stolen! Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 there coming up with all sorts of things . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 In case anybody is wondering what the 8-week extension letter looks like...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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