greylag Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 NRW have today taken magpie,jay,and jackdaw off the general licence . A very bad day for conservation in Wales .NRW are now being driven by anti shooting organisations and a anti shooting government . Sad sad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 https://cyfoethnaturiolcymru.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-events/news/nrw-board-make-changes-to-general-licences/?lang=en I wonder what scientific evidence they considered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrall26 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Didn't think they would do it. What a nigtmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 They do say that a high percentage of people who responded didn't live in Wales and WJ are jumping for joy thanking their members for pushing for these law changes. NRW role over again.!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Are you sure that is what it means because it isn't how I read it. The link posted doesn't mention magpies, jackdaws or jays in the changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Roughly 60% of responses were non Welsh, reccomendstions below... Outcome of recommended approach to general licences authorising lethal control of wild birds If the recommendations detailed in sections 1 to 10 above are implemented, the revised general licences from 1st July 2022 will be as outlined below. 11.1. All four licences (GL001, GL002, GL004 and GL005) • Issued annually. • Published in HTML but also available in PDF. • No requirement for users to register or provide reports. • Allow use of any non-prohibited method to kill / take wild birds. • Allow use of certain prohibited methods: o Semi-automatic weapons (all 4 general licences). o Cage traps (GL001, GL002 and GL004). o Hand held nets and artificial lighting in buildings (GL001, GL002). • All cage trap conditions and advisories to be included in each general licence. • Will not apply in / around certain listed protected sites (significantly reduced list compared with current licences). • New advice to licence users: o To take reasonable steps to address the problem using non-lethal methods before resorting to lethal control (supported by guidance). o Where applicable, to carry written landowner authorisation. o To keep records of licensed actions taken. 11.2. GL001 - preventing serious damage • Specify four categories of harm (livestock attack, damage to livestock foodstuffs, damage to crops / vegetables / fruit, spread of disease). • Allow lethal control of the same six species listed as in current licence (Canada goose, woodpigeon, feral pigeon, carrion crow, jackdaw and magpie). • Species-to-harm matrix specifying which species may be controlled to prevent which harms. • No restrictions on the time of year when licensed action can be taken. • ‘Kept’ in the definition of livestock, is interpreted as including captive reared animals or birds that are unconstrained but remain significantly dependent on people. 11.3. GL002 - preserving public health or public safety • Allow lethal control of feral pigeon only (as in current licence). 11.4. GL004 - conserving wild birds • Allow lethal control of carrion crow only. • Valid 1st February to 31st August. • Annex to the licence to include the list of beneficiary species • For the purpose of conserving eggs and chicks. 11.5. • GL005 /l icence to kill For scientific research and fauna / / take ruddy duck or conservation of wild birds ( current B15 A1 ly conservation of flora) . • . To allow destruction of nests as well as birds and eggs (nests not previously allowed) Page 6 of 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 https://www.newsweek.com/watch-shocking-moment-jackdaw-attacks-helpless-chick-resurfaced-clip-1686769?amp=1 So Jackdaw can still be shot to protect crops?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 The end for all field sports is getting nearer and nearer we are losing ground at a great rate. What with what is happening in Scotland regarding hunting dogs and now this. A few more years be lucky if you can go fishing. There has to be some thing that can be done. We are effectively getting bullied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, captainhastings said: The end for all field sports is getting nearer and nearer we are losing ground at a great rate. What with what is happening in Scotland regarding hunting dogs and now this. A few more years be lucky if you can go fishing. There has to be some thing that can be done. We are effectively getting bullied People were talking like that over 60 years ago and we are still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, London Best said: People were talking like that over 60 years ago and we are still here. I bet they weren't watching it disappear before there very eyes like we are though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) And what are orgs doing about this? Does anyone have any idea.? Probably selling the membership down the river...... pretty much as usual. Edited May 12, 2022 by Minky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Made they should take a look at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 The general licence, pest control, in nothing to do with field sports. Killing birds to protect named species of birds is now limited to when they are breeding. Sparrow and starling are still on the Northern Ireland licence, they came off the English licence years ago and not many people noticed. The consultation for the Northern Ireland licence is still open, for all U.K. to respond, the same as the Welsh licence was. Chances are that the Northern Ireland licence will follow the Welsh license. Licences can be issued for birds not on the general licence. It’s easy to blame shooting organisations or any one else, but its a license to use lethal control on protected birds, and it’s been took for granted for years. It’s a good thing they are reviewing them as one way or another they are black and white and not grey as they were often referred to. Maybe the people that used the license should have sorted the grey areas themselves before someone else did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landowner Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Shooting its self is under attack from powerful political forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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