Nuke Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Here is a completely hypothetical situation. Pretend your a political figure, you arrange to have a billion in aid from your country sent to the Ukrainian to help them out. Then a year later a government funded gas company hires your son to advise them on how to run the company with a million dollar a year salary. Then a few more companies by some of your sons art work for a few million and the companies donate your sons art work to museums for tax right offs. This is all hypothetical. On a completely unrelated subject has anyone saw the latest Hunter Biden paintings, they are really bad, he better hang on to his day job as a Ukrainian energy expert. You really are quite naive. /M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 20 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Here is a completely hypothetical situation. Pretend your a political figure, you arrange to have a billion in aid from your country sent to the Ukrainian to help them out. Then a year later a government funded gas company hires your son to advise them on how to run the company with a million dollar a year salary. Then a few more companies by some of your sons art work for a few million and the companies donate your sons art work to museums for tax right offs. This is all hypothetical. On a completely unrelated subject has anyone saw the latest Hunter Biden paintings, they are really bad, he better hang on to his day job as a Ukrainian energy expert. I see it's all Bidens fault OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted April 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 08/04/2022 at 00:30, Nuke said: You really are quite naive. /M It’s literally what has happened, in fact I will take it a step farther. Say your are a Ukrainian energy expert and a new prosecutor from a anti corruption force starts investigating you and your company so your dad the Vice President of the United States threatens to with hold US aid millions until the prosecutor is fired and then slips up on camera bragging about it. So the next President asks for information on the context of what happened and then the Congress holds impeachment hearings on the new President. This is all a hypothetical conspiracy theory off course but anyway here is a video of Joe Biden bragging about with holding US aid from the Ukraine until the prosecutor got fired. https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: This is all a hypothetical conspiracy theory off course but anyway here is a video of Joe Biden bragging about with holding US aid from the Ukraine until the prosecutor got fired Nah, he won't believe any of that, he'll say its not a credible source, or that was an actor pretending to be biden 😂 Every man and his dog now knows biden and his crackhead son were up to all kinds of corrupt £*&# in Ukraine, and I'll bet my house that biden promised the MIC a war if they got him elected. At least that's one thing he delivered, because he's delivered naff all else he promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted April 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 Speaking of art work I thought the was funny. Incase you don’t get the reference this is a photo of Hunter and his crack pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) I see we have want to tax dollars to Ukraine, to everything is Biden fault, what next the election was stollen and Trump won 🥱 Edited April 11, 2022 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 07/04/2022 at 19:45, ordnance said: Not even in the top ten, it's hardly ( one of most corrupt countries in the world ) Zelensky' campaign was based around the public anger at the corruption in government... but Zelensky himself has been found to have huge sums on money stashed away in offshore accounts (Look up the 'Pandora papers') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, treetree said: Zelensky' campaign was based around the public anger at the corruption in government... but Zelensky himself has been found to have huge sums on money stashed away in offshore accounts (Look up the 'Pandora papers') And ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 hours ago, ordnance said: And ? You were dismissing the Ukraine had a problem with corruption, I pointed out that the man elected on the back of anti-corruption messaging has been found to have huge sums of money stashed away in secret offshore accounts. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, treetree said: You were dismissing the Ukraine had a problem with corruption, I pointed out that the man elected on the back of anti-corruption messaging has been found to have huge sums of money stashed away in secret offshore accounts. Hope that helps. He'll ask for proof from a source trusted by his good self shortly. Then it needs to be 'fact checked', analysed, and then dismissed as heresay. Don't waste your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Zelensky has also used the war as a convenient excuse to ban all opposition parties. The man is an absolute snake, not to be trusted. Just because he is currently head of state in the battle ground for Russia's proxy war, doesn't mean he's some kind of hero. He's not much better than Putin. But we had to form an alliance with Stalin against Hitler. Strange bedfellows and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Zelensky has also used the war as a convenient excuse to ban all opposition parties. The man is an absolute snake, not to be trusted. Just because he is currently head of state in the battle ground for Russia's proxy war, doesn't mean he's some kind of hero. He's not much better than Putin. But we had to form an alliance with Stalin against Hitler. Strange bedfellows and all that. Ban all parties? MP's from many parties have signed up to fight for .UA. What role would political parties have in war under marshal law? Do you mean he has clamped down on Russian sympathisers and those who have Putin as godfather to their children? Sounds like a common sense wartime move to me. Not saying for a minute that Zelensky is beyond reproach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 06/04/2022 at 19:56, NoBodyImportant said: Little to none, Ukrainian is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Nobody cared when the Ukrainian government was indiscriminately shelling Donetsk and Luhansk. There are indeed two sides to every argument. What Putin has done is very wrong. But the Ukraine Government of recent past is far from the blushing bride in all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: The man is an absolute snake, not to be trusted. Just because he is currently head of state in the battle ground for Russia's proxy war, doesn't mean he's some kind of hero. There are analysts who that believe zelensky has used Mariupol as a sacrificial lamb to get rid of the unruly azov battalion. They are largely unanswerable to Kiev, and an embarrassing though effective addition to the defence of Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/azov-fighter-video-overshadows-zelenskiys-address-greek-lawmakers-2022-04-07/ Mariupol is due to fall in the coming days, as resupply is virtually impossible, among many thousands of civilians killed , its likely the azovs will either be wiped out, or face a very harsh outcome if taken prisoner. It seems though that its not only the Russians who are looking for de nazification ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 hours ago, treetree said: You were dismissing the Ukraine had a problem with corruption, I pointed out that the man elected on the back of anti-corruption messaging has been found to have huge sums of money stashed away in secret offshore accounts. Hope that helps. I am not sure what that has to do with helping Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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