Gordon R Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 Quote when you compare Johnson and Starmer the difference in standards is immense. You are correct. Johnson would never allow the anti-semitism that exists in Labour. Starmer should have kicked out a fair number of these odious people, but hasn't done so. Weak as water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 16 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: No comparison with his deputy, who claimed she wasn't there ......... until a photo emerged and she was forced to admit it. Also Stammer never corrected that claim. Seems to have had the same memory lapse the affected Boris.  16 hours ago, oowee said: ?? Not according to the law. Sufficient integrity to hold up hand say what happened and offer to resign. There is simply no comparison. Just like Trump with his voter fraud claims? So only has integrity when it suits him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Made me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Starmer is right in the fact that we need a fresh start, what appears to elude him is the fact that he and his party are not capable of providing it. Really hope we get a new Tory leader and cabinet that reinstate traditional Tory values albeit tuned to the modern world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Starmer is right in the fact that we need a fresh start, what appears to elude him is the fact that he and his party are not capable of providing it. Really hope we get a new Tory leader and cabinet that reinstate traditional Tory values albeit tuned to the modern world. ......but I'm not holding my breath. Edited July 11, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Starmer is right in the fact that we need a fresh start, what appears to elude him is the fact that he and his party are not capable of providing it. Really hope we get a new Tory leader and cabinet that reinstate traditional Tory values albeit tuned to the modern world. It would be very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 What are these traditional Tory values ? Proponents (I would have thought) of such values, e.g. Dominic Grieve and Rory Stewart, were pushed out of the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Pushandpull said: What are these traditional Tory values ? Proponents (I would have thought) of such values, e.g. Dominic Grieve and Rory Stewart, were pushed out of the party. They start with being credible and serious, something seriously lacking recently and in a shooting community context I would add the upholding of customs and traditions. Might be a stretch but with Boris gone perhaps there could be a way back for the likes of Grieve and Stewart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Adherence to the Nolan Principles by all sides would be nice thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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