alan123shooting Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) One of the perks of a hobby working on gun cases is handling some of the guns. Just finished converting an old 16 bore leather violin style case for a Westley Richards .410 side x side what a sweet little and incredibly rare gun, the owner gave me permission to shoot it, it handles like a dream, very jealous! I tried to keep the case as original as possible so no total reline , Edited May 17, 2022 by alan123shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Very nice in all respects! Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Beautifull. Awesome little gun and case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Awesome and the westley is a ejector too what a lovely gun 😊 Those cases must be so hard to find thanks for posting 👍😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Excellent work! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted May 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Thank you gents, mind you the next one from the same guy is completely at the other end, fitting a four bore into an old rifle case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 That’s going to be a fun project 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted May 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Your telling me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Lovely. I guess the gun has been cut down for a child at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 A lovely thing but what a shame about the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Lovely work there Alan. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted May 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: Lovely work there Alan. OB 5 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: Lovely work there Alan. OB 5 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: Lovely work there Alan. OB Thank you Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan123shooting Posted May 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 I’m not sure what the length the stock was when a purchased it at auction but he has arms like a Gorilla so anything will come up short , I do know that it was an absolute bargain at £350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, alan123shooting said: I do know that it was an absolute bargain at £350 That is amazing value. I have a non ejector AyA, bought new many years ago by my father, and I think it cost more than the equivalent of that then. One slight issue is the older English 0.410s are often quite short chambers (2 1/2") I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: One slight issue is the older English 0.410s are often quite short chambers (2 1/2") I believe. I see things the other way around! 2 1/2” are regular .410s and the 3” are magnums shooting almost a 20 bore load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, London Best said: I see things the other way around! 2 1/2” are regular .410s and the 3” are magnums shooting almost a 20 bore load. Personally, I completely agree. Although my AyA is 3", I use 2 1/2" shooting 12 grammes (Eley Fourlong or equivalent) or 2" shooting 9 grammes (Eley Fourten or equivallent). However - mine is only used for small vermin and within very modest range. Those here who use 0.410 for normal game shooting I think use loads that need 3". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Personally, I completely agree. Although my AyA is 3", I use 2 1/2" shooting 12 grammes (Eley Fourlong or equivalent) or 2" shooting 9 grammes (Eley Fourten or equivallent). However - mine is only used for small vermin and within very modest range. Those here who use 0.410 for normal game shooting I think use loads that need 3". I’ve shot a lot of pigeons, corvids, pheasants, partridge and duck (pre lead ban) with my 2 1/2 inch .410 A&N with 14 gram 7’s and I am always surprised at how effective it is for general shooting. Using a 3” is akin to using a 12 bore and always using 42 gram loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Beautiful work @alan123shooting thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, London Best said: I’ve shot a lot of pigeons, corvids, pheasants, partridge and duck (pre lead ban) with my 2 1/2 inch .410 A&N with 14 gram 7’s and I am always surprised at how effective it is for general shooting. Using a 3” is akin to using a 12 bore and always using 42 gram loads. Yea! Like the .410 Zabala side by side that I bought that weighed over 6lbs! My late father's G E Lewis "Light Magnum" s/b/s 262 barrel boxlock ejector 20 bore with 2 3/4" chambers weighed less at 5lbs 12 ozs! Edited May 18, 2022 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Beautiful gun great job 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Yea! Like the .410 Zabala side by side that I bought that weighed over 6lbs! My late father's G E Lewis "Light Magnum" s/b/s 262 barrel boxlock ejector 20 bore with 2 3/4" chambers weighed less at 5lbs 12 ozs! My two doubles weigh 4lb 1 1/2 oz and 4lb 2 1/2 oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, London Best said: My two doubles weigh 4lb 1 1/2 oz and 4lb 2 1/2 oz. My AyA non-ej boxlock weighs 5 1/4 lbs, but it is a 'somewhat basic full size stocked' wood and finish, and is proof with 3" chambers for a rather large pressure (can't remember the figure off hand). It handles nicely and doesn't feel 'cumbersome' at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: My AyA non-ej boxlock weighs 5 1/4 lbs, but it is a 'somewhat basic full size stocked' wood and finish, and is proof with 3" chambers for a rather large pressure (can't remember the figure off hand). It handles nicely and doesn't feel 'cumbersome' at all. A friend has a nice 2 1/2 inch Belgian hammerless double which I bought for him from @Dunks on here. That weighs just 5lbs and handles beautifully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Lovely gun. It has to be remembered that when that gun was made, it was probably for a younger person, possibly as a present. It would therefore have been fitted with a shorter stock. I have seen a lot of Westley's over the years and many had stock extensions, my own included, which was made in 1926. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Good point. As most of us are over 6ft now the majority of old game guns are too short stocked for my generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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