CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) On my travels today I picked up this unusual tankard. The address on the bottom is 130 Regent Street which was Carrington &Co silver and jewellery makers. It’s stamped IBG with a Victorian crown above. EPGS AI The offset handle is rosewood or ebony. Height 4.25" The monogram is T H - is it a hunting cup or “jigger” that contained the stirrup cup? All answers appreciated. Thanks Capt C Edited May 29, 2022 by CaptC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 I think it’s for measuring out rum or grog to sailors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: I think it’s for measuring out rum or grog to sailors Fair old measure 4-1/4" of rum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, islandgun said: Fair old measure 4-1/4" of rum Certainly more than 2 fingers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, islandgun said: Fair old measure 4-1/4" of rum I thought they mixed it with water (grog) and served them a pint or a set measure have you tried a pint or 1/2 in it to see what it holds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Just measured the fluid contents - 10 fluid ozs or half a pint in Boris terms I think too big a measure for "grog" - also too well made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 In 1731 sailors were given their first ‘official’ alcohol ration on board, decreed by the newly published Naval Code at the time (though since the first ships set sail there had always been booze on board). Crews were issued with either eight pints of beer per day, or a half pint of spirit, depending on what was available at the time. The favoured spirit of the fleet quickly became rum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: In 1731 sailors were given their first ‘official’ alcohol ration on board, decreed by the newly published Naval Code at the time (though since the first ships set sail there had always been booze on board). Crews were issued with either eight pints of beer per day, or a half pint of spirit, depending on what was available at the time. The favoured spirit of the fleet quickly became rum. Interesting but I cannot see this item on a ship - nor is it old enough. I would think it's circa the 1920's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, CaptC said: Interesting but I cannot see this item on a ship - nor is it old enough. I would think it's circa the 1920's. Between the war’s could be for mulled wine or hot punch although I’m just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Naval Grog was issued in (usually) copper utensils - I have contacted Hancocks who I believe, are now the owners of Carringtons. The monogram would give us the answer but haystacks and needles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 EPGS is the mark for Electro Plated German Silver (which is silver plated over an alloy of nickel, copper and zinc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Thank you - I could not find EPGS on my Google search - Incidentally, if the item was a measuring tool surely it would be marked as such? There are no markings in relation to contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, CaptC said: Thank you - I could not find EPGS on my Google search - Incidentally, if the item was a measuring tool surely it would be marked as such? There are no markings in relation to contents I have a vague idea it may be a coffee or chocolate/cocoa related item. The longish wooden handle makes me think it may be for hot beverages, but that is all guesswork as chocolate pots usually have spouts; see here https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/index/2019-chocolate-pots-silver-items/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 It could be a brandy pan or brandy warmer. Some are like that one. Some have a small pouring spout like a small jug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Can I just say thank you to all who have contributed to my question - I really appreciate the interest! There is no evidence looking inside the rim of there ever being a lid. Someone else suggested a Turkish style Cezve for hot coffee but the jury is still out as they say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, CaptC said: Can I just say thank you to all who have contributed to my question - I really appreciate the interest! There is no evidence looking inside the rim of there ever being a lid. Someone else suggested a Turkish style Cezve for hot coffee but the jury is still out as they say! This is about the most interesting thread for ages to shortly deteriorate 🙄 when someone decides it for catching and storing ginger 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 A naval mess deck (officers) cocoa warmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted May 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 Why ginger? Rumours gave started it might be for catching Cornish pixies 11 minutes ago, ditchman said: A naval mess deck (officers) cocoa warmer Now that’s good! Just needs the monogram deciphering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Old farrier said: This is about the most interesting thread for ages to shortly deteriorate 🙄 when someone decides it for catching and storing ginger 😂 You just had to go and do it didn't you 😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 9 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: I have a vague idea it may be a coffee or chocolate/cocoa related item. The longish wooden handle makes me think it may be for hot beverages, but that is all guesswork as chocolate pots usually have spouts; see here https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/index/2019-chocolate-pots-silver-items/ yeah i was thinking coffee as well I'm sure we have similar at work in our showroom with the very first hand pulled commercial coffee machine will check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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