ShootingEgg Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Tonight's show, talking about eagles that were found dead in Dorset, must have been someone laying down poison.... I don't normally watch but just had a day in garden and need something dumb down and easy to watch 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 Hello, so did anyone do a autopsy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 I may be mistaken, but in a quick glimpse of one of those snippets of highlighted text, wasn’t there mentioned something about ‘secondary poisoning’ from a rodenticide? It may be worth watching again on iplayer, which I can’t due to no internet. Does that imply poisoned deliberately, such as baited? How does anyone prove deliberate poisoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Scully said: I may be mistaken, but in a quick glimpse of one of those snippets of highlighted text, wasn’t there mentioned something about ‘secondary poisoning’ from a rodenticide? It may be worth watching again on iplayer, which I can’t due to no internet. Does that imply poisoned deliberately, such as baited? How does anyone prove deliberate poisoning? What no internet in this day and age. Come on Scully move with the times! P.S. try B.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 It was said that its liver contained 7 times the lethal dose and was pointed out how come it didn't die after the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: What no internet in this day and age. Come on Scully move with the times! P.S. try B.T. 😂👍 4 minutes ago, wymberley said: It was said that its liver contained 7 times the lethal dose and was pointed out how come it didn't die after the first. Implying it was held captive and fed poison multiple times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scully said: secondary poisoning’ from a rodenticide? This was mentioned but good old Ruth t came on saying it had 7 times the lethal does in its system. Surely if that was the case the police wouldn't of dropped this... It's just another way of stirring the pot against landowners and shooters / game keepers 3 hours ago, Scully said: 😂👍 Implying it was held captive and fed poison multiple times? Unsure though as it would die after the first dose.... Unless some how it are something that was fully loaded with poison Edited June 12, 2022 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, wymberley said: It was said that its liver contained 7 times the lethal dose and was pointed out how come it didn't die after the first. Seven times the lethal dose , just means that it had seven times more poison than it needed to kill it , not that it had seven doses. It just picked up a dead rat , and is more than likely just pure chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, mel b3 said: Seven times the lethal dose , just means that it had seven times more poison than it needed to kill it , not that it had seven doses. Of course! Gawd, I’m thick at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 10 hours ago, mel b3 said: Seven times the lethal dose , just means that it had seven times more poison than it needed to kill it , not that it had seven doses. It just picked up a dead rat , and is more than likely just pure chance. Yep I (we) got that but the millions of stem dead couch potatos now think someone (gamekeeper, landowner or shooters) did it on purpose, is that not called slander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Playing the devil's advocate for a moment (often a tad dodgy on here), a female sea eagle can weigh up to 15 lbs and assuming the autopsy was valid and the figure not exaggerated and as the use of rodenticides is so strictly controlled and to be accidentally picked up the poison bait would have had to have been placed outdoors, just what exactly does one suppose would have been the target species? Even if the poisoning was secondary, just how big would the primary have been? Edited June 13, 2022 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, wymberley said: Even if the poisoning was secondary, just how big would the primary have been? Do they still inject deer hit by cars? I've seen videos of sea eagles before eating a dead deer that was left up on the hill, it would have returned to a meal like this? I've no idea if the substance used to put the deer down would make the meat poisonous? Wrong word, toxic, tainted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dessyb Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 dont know why people give the program a second glance its got nowt to do with countryside at all. they are over paid puppets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 The eagle was poisoned by brodifacoum, a very widely used anticoagulant rodenticide with no use in euthanasia of large animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, dessyb said: dont know why people give the program a second glance its got nowt to do with countryside at all. they are over paid puppets “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Pushandpull said: The eagle was poisoned by brodifacoum, a very widely used anticoagulant rodenticide with no use in euthanasia of large animals. 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 A report i was reading showed Jermey Clarckson Did more for the countryside in one seriers that that bunch of clowns have done in 30 years i always record it watch it on fast foreward then usually only watch the weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) It’s very easy to jump to conclusions in or against our favour, as an article in a mates ST has just confirmed, regarding the death of a raptor Police claimed had been shot. It apparently died of natural causes, but this wasn’t confirmed until the wrong verdict was already out there. Guilty or innocent, us shooters are often the first port of call to apportion blame to. Edited June 13, 2022 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Scully said: shooters are often the first port of call to apportion blame to And that is because the likes of Packham, Avery, Tingay apportion blame instantly for every reported death and get lots of press/air coverage readily - even though nothing is 'fact checked'. They are skilled and ruthless media manipulators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: And that is because the likes of Packham, Avery, Tingay apportion blame instantly for every reported death and get lots of press/air coverage readily - even though nothing is 'fact checked'. They are skilled and ruthless media manipulators. I have said this before (I think) there's more wildlife splattered on our roads than anything that's poisoned, shot, trapped, more so the young, nothing said about this cos its the general public doing it, that would be very unpopular, we get a hedgehog in the garden next morning it's pancake, I don't know what the answer is but it's not the Packham witch hunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, steve s×s said: I have said this before (I think) there's more wildlife splattered on our roads than anything that's poisoned, shot, trapped, more so the young, nothing said about this cos its the general public doing it, that would be very unpopular, we get a hedgehog in the garden next morning it's pancake, I don't know what the answer is but it's not the Packham witch hunt! Also c55 million birds killed by cats each year in UK, The RSPB is, however," aware of peoples feelings about this issue ", and takes their concerns seriously ! Edited June 13, 2022 by twenty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, steve s×s said: I have said this before (I think) there's more wildlife splattered on our roads than anything that's poisoned, shot, trapped, more so the young, nothing said about this cos its the general public doing it, that would be very unpopular, we get a hedgehog in the garden next morning it's pancake, I don't know what the answer is but it's not the Packham witch hunt! I agree, but it's not deliberate would be the argument. When it comes to popularity we aren't in the same league, same with media presence and anything negative is jumped on. 1 hour ago, twenty said: Also c55 million birds killed by cats each year in UK, The RSPB is, however," aware of peoples feelings about this issue ", and takes their concerns seriously ! Can't upset potential donors though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 13, 2022 Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 On a more positive note I have just watched (BBC4) episode 3 of "A Wild Year" (I'm sure it is a repeat) which gave a very fair treatment of the need for heather burning and how without it moorland as we know it would gradually disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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