ditchman Posted February 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 have heard Turkey have issued over 100 arrest warrants on contractors that were involved in the collapsed structures...........im not surprised was watching drone footage of the disaster area's and the buildings around the collapsed ones ...some of them (most of them are totally untouched ..not even broken windows or cracks in the walls ...the was one picture of 5 buildings surrounding a totally pancaked block of flats and all the buildings were totally intact .... still very surprised at the whitish colour and the powdery nature of the rubble on pancaked structures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 07/02/2023 at 20:00, Fisheruk said: Undoubtedly poor construction, but we’re not much better in many respects. Grenfell- I watched the fire in real time and new that Building Regulations had been compromised. Subsequently hundreds of properties were found to have similar problems. Clerk of Works, we don’t have them now in this country and with private Building Regulation contractors- it’s not far away from he who pays the piper calls the tune! I'm a londoner and I can remember when they were building all those tower blocks like Grefell people refused to move into them. It's always been believed they were death traps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 The article i saw said they knew they where building on quake fault and thought the extra measure's where in place . But knowing it was a fault area that emergency rescue help didnt arrive quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Hello, did I hear the Turkish president say it will only take a year to rebuild ? Ah but which year ?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Unless you happen to be aware for a reason, nobody on here can possibly forsee the legal wrangings sorting out the estates of all those that died and the property claims for all the building damaged. Rebuilt in a year ? It will take decades to sort out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 07/02/2023 at 16:47, Centrepin said: Debonded concrete is called spalling concrete. It's what happens when rusty rebar is placed inside of poor quality or if you read my earlier post on this, out of spec concrete. The rust expands and causes cracks to appear, the concrete then crumbles allowing more water to cause more rust and so on. The old (well new 1976) Palais de Congress in Rouen, France was such. Some call this defect "concrete cancer". By 1996 it was closed and empty and demolished in 2010. You could in the early 2000s see the rebar visible where the concrete had broken away in the pillars on its outside. Yet take a trip to the Normandy coast and the German made blockhouses from WWII show none of these defects. The lesson is clear one was built with someone skimming off the profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Quite a few quarters at Brize Norton had this issue - they still had people living in them - some were three storey flats.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 I grew up on and around Park Hill and Hyde Park flats in Sheffield and they were showing "concrete cancer" then. A lot have gone now with a lot of remedial money spent on the remaining blocks. Strange that all the square tower blocks that went up after came down before though. There was a report from a new hospital in the earthquake area on tv the other night, big holes in the walls and structure. That wasn't built to withstand an earthquake, it may have been designed to, but its wasn't built to obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 There has been up to 150 arrests of people in the construction of these buildings. So someome knows something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 There was a Panorama programme on the beeb about this on Monday 13th. There was so much re-bar showing in the carnage it was amazing (awful !!!) !!! The concrete looks like it just crumbled 🤔 The proverbial is going to hit the fan 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1000s of buildings in the UK are made in the same way. Mainly schools, hospitals and office blocks which have little or no one to complain after the build. Folk may moan the building is poo but not a proper complaint. If it was a house built that way the owner would complain and eventually something might get done. As I type this there are sites all over the UK with substandard out of spec concrete being pumped in. Nothing ever gets done about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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