New “Migrant” hotel twist

[discobob]

Today I have been to a pre-planning meeting for the change of use of a local hotel to house refugees. The hotel closed down during lockdown but was bought by a business man with promises of reopening it as a hotel. They are looking to put 150 in 40 rooms within the hotel, they are also looking to house another 250 In containers stacked up 2 high outside on the car park areas.
This is located next to a village which has 1200 residents and a small premier shop. the hotel also has 3 houses attached to it with people living there (owners). 
I have also found out that there is a hotel in Bristol that is already being used to house migrants has applied for a change of use for its car park so I imagine that the same is going to happen there. 

What are people’s thoughts on this escalation of accommodation when supposedly we are supposed to be not letting them in going forward
 

[12gauge82]

This is happening up and down the country now, I've spoken to countless people all over the place saying the same. The cons are not going to grip this situation (actions speak louder than words). 

[armsid]

Do you know if they are families Single men  will the local NHS cope schools etc refugees are no different to economic migrants and would jump at any accomodation but would containers be good for illegal (entry) migrants or anyone and where does it end with scores of homeless of our own to look after let Lineker and the other left wing luvvies house them This situation will only get worse and if people booking hols and are told their bookings are cancelled due to hotels being taken over for asylum /refugees will the local gov. bailout the local failing businesses for lack of custom

Edited March 17, 2023 by armsid

[Yellow Bear]

10 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

The cons are not going to grip this situation (actions speak louder than words). 

However the "opposition" is saying we should just let them all in regardless - so what is your answer for now, not pie in the sky change the system which will take years.

[discobob]

33 minutes ago, armsid said:

Do you know if they are families Single men  will the local NHS cope schools etc refugees are no different to economic migrants and would jump at any accomodation but would containers be good for illegal (entry) migrants or anyone and where does it end with scores of homeless of our own to look after let Lineker and the other left wing luvvies house them This situation will only get worse and if people booking hols and are told their bookings are cancelled due to hotels being taken over for asylum /refugees will the local gov. bailout the local failing businesses for lack of custom

All male so no families. I think it is the portable office type solution from the plans

[ditchman]

we will be able to do nothing..........we are permantly on a losing ticket...especially when the BBC is supporting Linekar and others

[12gauge82]

5 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

However the "opposition" is saying we should just let them all in regardless - so what is your answer for now, not pie in the sky change the system which will take years.

There is no magic bullet, but I will be voting for reform, I know it risks splitting the vote ect, but I'd rather risk a damaging 4 years under Labour, than to carry on under the cons who promise change and never deliver it. 

[Newbie to this]

3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

There is no magic bullet, but I will be voting for reform, I know it risks splitting the vote ect, but I'd rather risk a damaging 4 years under Labour, than to carry on under the cons who promise change and never deliver it. 

[Centrepin]

Put them all in the containers lock them and send them back/anywhere. Simples.

[powler]

A local hotel in Hereford has just become home to 120 asylum seekers Some info here

I have no issue for genuine asylum seekers but this is extracting the urine.

[Ultrastu]

Which village near Bristol are we talking about please? 

[Mice!]

This has already happened to a couple of hotels near us, but the containers in the car park is new!

10 hours ago, ditchman said:

we will be able to do nothing..........we are permantly on a losing ticket...especially when the BBC is supporting Linekar and others

It's nothing to do with the BBC, it's all about letting in thousands and thousands of economic migrants. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, the Great of Great Britain has dropped off the Cliffs of Dover 🤔🙄

[discobob]

1 hour ago, Ultrastu said:

Which village near Bristol are we talking about please? 

Not sure tbh - just heard about it

 

47 minutes ago, Mice! said:

This has already happened to a couple of hotels near us, but the containers in the car park is new!

It's nothing to do with the BBC, it's all about letting in thousands and thousands of economic migrants. 

Edit. Sorry I misread you - I thought you meant it has already happened (container's) near you

Edited March 18, 2023 by discobob

[derbyduck]

Wow, I think people are starting to smell the Coffee !😏

[morgan]

Though not a labour party supporter, I'm finding it hard to understand why this crisis is being blamed on the left wing. We have had a conservative government for the last decade, they have a clear majority in the house of commons. The governments lack of ability to act with changing world events is the problem. They have failed to fund a immigration service and border force fit for purpose in these times. Why is there an up to 4 year backlog and waiting list on asylum applications? Before we left europe we were party to the Dublin agreement so we could immeadiately return migrants to their last point of departure. HS2 is already over budget and costing the government ie. tax payer, a projected £180 billion pounds. There is obviously money available to pay for a functioning immigration service for the British people. Instead we get Suella Braverman talking utter twaddle about sending people to Rwanda. The government clearly has no plan or inclination to act - in fact the migrant crisis is handy because the flag wavers concentrate on the percieved threat from migrants rather than the cost of living crisis and the clowns in Westminster. Some of the hotel chains that are now making tens of millions from housing migrants, have strong links to the government. Yet another mechanism of seamlessly transferring taxpayers money to their mates in the private sector. As far as this goverment is concerned the decent british working man can go hang.

Edited March 18, 2023 by morgan

[Rem260]

6 minutes ago, morgan said:

Though not a labour party supporter, I'm finding it hard to understand why this crisis is being blamed on the left wing. We have had a conservative government for the last decade, they have a clear majority in the house of commons. The governments lack of ability to act with changing world events is the problem. They have failed to fund a immigration service and border force fit for purpose in these times. Why is there an up to 4 year backlog and waiting list on asylum applications? Before we left europe we were party to the Dublin agreement so we could immeadiately return migrants to their last point of departure. HS2 is already over budget and costing th e government ie. tax payer, a projected £180 billion pounds. There is obviously money available to pay for a functioning immigration service for the British people. Instead we get Suella Braverman talking utter twaddle about sending people to Rwanda. The government clearly has no plan or inclination to act - in fact the migrant crisis is handy because the flag wavers concentrate on the percieved threat from migrants rather than the cost of living crisis and the clowns in Westminster. Some of the hotel chains that are now making tens of millions from housing migrants, have strong links to the government. Yet another mechanism of seamlessly transferring taxpayers money to their mates in the private sector. As far as this goverment is cocerned the decent british working man can go hang.

It's no good having policies if the left (MP'S, Civil Service, Lawyers, Charties ect.) Frustrate every move taken by the government. In all the years of the Dublin agreement. How many were returned.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Rem260

[12gauge82]

8 minutes ago, morgan said:

Though not a labour party supporter, I'm finding it hard to understand why this crisis is being blamed on the left wing. We have had a conservative government for the last decade, they have a clear majority in the house of commons. The governments lack of ability to act with changing world events is the problem. They have failed to fund a immigration service and border force fit for purpose in these times. Why is there an up to 4 year backlog and waiting list on asylum applications? Before we left europe we were party to the Dublin agreement so we could immeadiately return migrants to their last point of departure. HS2 is already over budget and costing the government ie. tax payer, a projected £180 billion pounds. There is obviously money available to pay for a functioning immigration service for the British people. Instead we get Suella Braverman talking utter twaddle about sending people to Rwanda. The government clearly has no plan or inclination to act - in fact the migrant crisis is handy because the flag wavers concentrate on the percieved threat from migrants rather than the cost of living crisis and the clowns in Westminster. Some of the hotel chains that are now making tens of millions from housing migrants, have strong links to the government. Yet another mechanism of seamlessly transferring taxpayers money to their mates in the private sector. As far as this goverment is concerned the decent british working man can go hang.

The cons are left wing in places, particularly on migration. 

[morgan]

Just now, Rem260 said:

It's no good having policies if the left (MP'S, Civil Service, Lawyers, Charties ect.) Frustrate every move taken by the government. In all the years of the Dublin agreement. How many wh

By and large that doesn't happen. Its just a gaslighting myth from the media of "the decent conservative government doing its best for the british people - yet constantly frustrated by wokes n lefties"

This government is a bunch of corrupt jokers - how many more corruption scandals, how many more backhanders, how much more cronyism and nepotism and criminal incompentance will it take for people to start opening their eyes.

3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

The cons are left wing in places, particularly on migration. 

They are as about as left wing as Mussolini ☺️

[oowee]

13 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

However the "opposition" is saying we should just let them all in regardless - so what is your answer for now, not pie in the sky change the system which will take years.

Where do you get that from? We all know the answer but don't want to accept reality. 

 

7 minutes ago, Rem260 said:

It's no good having policies if the left (MP'S, Civil Service, Lawyers, Charties ect.) Frustrate every move taken by the government. In all the years of the Dublin agreement. How many were returned.

Do you have any idea how these groups work? Perhaps you have some specific examples? 

[Rem260]

4 minutes ago, morgan said:

By and large that doesn't happen. Its just a gaslighting myth from the media of "the decent conservative government doing its best for the british people - yet constantly frustrated by wokes n lefties"

This government is a bunch of corrupt jokers - how many more corruption scandals, how many more backhanders, how much more cronyism and nepotism and criminal incompentance will it take for people to start opening their eyes.

They are as about as left wing as Mussolini ☺️

Can you give a few examples of these none lefty people/organisations promoting illegal immigration?

[islandgun]

36 minutes ago, morgan said:

Though not a labour party supporter, I'm finding it hard to understand why this crisis is being blamed on the left wing. We have had a conservative government for the last decade, they have a clear majority in the house of commons. The governments lack of ability to act with changing world events is the problem. They have failed to fund a immigration service and border force fit for purpose in these times. Why is there an up to 4 year backlog and waiting list on asylum applications? Before we left europe we were party to the Dublin agreement so we could immeadiately return migrants to their last point of departure. HS2 is already over budget and costing the government ie. tax payer, a projected £180 billion pounds. There is obviously money available to pay for a functioning immigration service for the British people. Instead we get Suella Braverman talking utter twaddle about sending people to Rwanda. The government clearly has no plan or inclination to act - in fact the migrant crisis is handy because the flag wavers concentrate on the percieved threat from migrants rather than the cost of living crisis and the clowns in Westminster. Some of the hotel chains that are now making tens of millions from housing migrants, have strong links to the government. Yet another mechanism of seamlessly transferring taxpayers money to their mates in the private sector. As far as this goverment is concerned the decent british working man can go hang.

Exactly. well said..  this might be of interest, no idea who "free movement is. https://freemovement.org.uk/rejoining-dublin-asylum-system/#:~:text=The “Dublin system” is the,usually Greece%2C Hungary or Italy.

Edited March 18, 2023 by islandgun

[Rem260]

4 minutes ago, oowee said:

Where do you get that from? We all know the answer but don't want to accept reality. 

 

Do you have any idea how these groups work? Perhaps you have some specific examples? 

Are you asking for examples from this reality or the one your inhabiting?

Edited March 18, 2023 by Rem260

[Rem260]

13 minutes ago, oowee said:

Where do you get that from? We all know the answer but don't want to accept reality. 

 

Do you have any idea how these groups work? Perhaps you have some specific examples? 

A quick search for you.

Civil Service
https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/union-seeks-to-block-first-rwanda-flight-as-legal-challenge-kicks-off
MP'S AND Lefty Luvvies.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1367302/priti-patel-deportation-flight-jamaica-immigration-labour-party-clive-lewis
Charities
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-charities-seek-injunction-block-migrant-deportations-rwanda-2022-06-08/

[morgan]

41 minutes ago, Rem260 said:

A quick search for you.

Civil Service
https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/union-seeks-to-block-first-rwanda-flight-as-legal-challenge-kicks-off
MP'S AND Lefty Luvvies.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1367302/priti-patel-deportation-flight-jamaica-immigration-labour-party-clive-lewis
Charities
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-charities-seek-injunction-block-migrant-deportations-rwanda-2022-06-08/

Can't you see that sending people to Rwanda is just a gimmick by the government to start a culture war - so they dont have to think up a real immigration policy. Isn't it a bit unworkable to do you think sending 100'000's of people to Rwanda, whilst paying the Rwandan government millions. This country needs a robust, legal, fit for purpose immigration policy. There was a Border Force official virtually in tears on the radio in frustration.

Edited March 18, 2023 by morgan