oowee Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rem260 said: A quick search for you. Civil Servicehttps://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/union-seeks-to-block-first-rwanda-flight-as-legal-challenge-kicks-offMP'S AND Lefty Luvvies.https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1367302/priti-patel-deportation-flight-jamaica-immigration-labour-party-clive-lewisCharitieshttps://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-charities-seek-injunction-block-migrant-deportations-rwanda-2022-06-08/ These links make the point. They are doing exactly what they are appointed / paid to do. You have taken groups and organisations doing the job that they are paid for and then jumped to the conclusion that they 'Just want to let them in', with no evidence to support your claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 hours ago, powler said: A local hotel in Hereford has just become home to 120 asylum seekers Some info here I have no issue for genuine asylum seekers but this is extracting the urine. Seemingly, just what all politicos are able to do and seem hell bent on doing regardless? Reform for me too, utterly sick of the clowns we have had for years. Bitching and whingeing their way around the communal trough achieving nothing of benefit to the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 It appears that Lidl have an "interest" in the site, if so then an income from the HO would be most welcome whilst the planning application is further reviewed. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/business/23259265.lidl-shows-plans-new-hereford-store-still-track/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 hours ago, old man said: Seemingly, just what all politicos are able to do and seem hell bent on doing regardless? Reform for me too, utterly sick of the clowns we have had for years. Bitching and whingeing their way around the communal trough achieving nothing of benefit to the country? Did you vote for these losers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, morgan said: Can't you see that sending people to Rwanda is just a gimmick by the government to start a culture war - so they dont have to think up a real immigration policy. Isn't it a bit unworkable to do you think sending 100'000's of people to Rwanda, whilst paying the Rwandan government millions. This country needs a robust, legal, fit for purpose immigration policy. There was a Border Force official virtually in tears on the radio in frustration. Several other countries already have similar schemes in place and it works really well. I believe Denmark does it. Israel has done it for years and its main benefit is as a deterrent. The theory is that it will dramatically reduce the number of people willing to make the crossing There is no point in coming here if you believe its not going to work and you will end up in Rwanda instead of an all expenses paid hotel. The problem at the moment is that if you can get your feet on British soil by hook or by crook the chances are you will be allowed to stay. Eventually. And some immigration lawyer will make a lot of money representing you. Edited March 18, 2023 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) If there was an option for living in temperate Rwanda for 6 months of the year it could be seen as the better option for many British pensioners struggling to feed and clothe themselves and heat their homes whilst this cost of living crisis is going on, its totally unfair that luxurious hotels with free room and board in Rwanda are being offered to illegal immigrants ahead of born and bred poverty striken British pensioners that are in far more need of the warmth and sustinence being offered by our kindly,benevolent african friends, Edited March 19, 2023 by janner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, janner said: If there was an option for living in temperate Rwanda for 6 months of the year it could be seen as the better option for many British pensioners struggling to feed and clothe themselves and heat their homes whilst this cost of living crisis is going on, its totally unfair that luxurious hotels with free room and board in Rwanda are being offered to illegal immigrants ahead of born and bred poverty striken British pensioners that are in far more need of the warmth and sustinence being offered by our kindly,benevolent african friends, Ah but then we would be accused by the Woke of colonising - it only works one way you understand 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) Just looked up Rwandan living standards, any British pensioner who cant see a doctor or has to choose between heat or eat would be much better off taking the Rwandan option if offered, Its disgraceful that all this is being offered free of charge to illegal immigrants before British citizens get the chance, Sod the wokes, Lets put British people first. Edited March 19, 2023 by janner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) I'm sure you are well meaning, but the wokes (if they actually exist), do not have any influence on government policy or legislation. The government needs to start putting British people first, not the corporations and party doners. For the last 10 years workers wages have been falling in real terms while the profits of business and the corporations have been rising. Illegal immigration only has a miniscule effect on the British economy. The disparity between rich and poor is rising in this country, along with the associated harm of falling living standards, i.e. poor housing, health and reduced life expectancy. The Wokes are a bogyperson created by the government and media to create culture wars and division in society, so the government is not held to account. Are the wokes responsible to the failing NHS, inflation and energy costs, social services, education, policing and just about thing that effects the normal british working person. Edited March 19, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 23 hours ago, oowee said: Did you vote for these losers? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, old man said: Nope. 👍 Me neither. It was obvious that Boris was a door handle and the rest have very little to offer. There is so little clear thinking when they have to cling onto power at all costs taking completely irrational steps. Just reading the latest story about a crim that was deported to Jamaica even though he was British. On return to the UK he was arrested for using his own passport illegally. As you would expect legal action is being pursued. We are likely to reap what we sow when we are blinded by dogma, driven by half truths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 The hotel next to the snowdome in Tamworth is locked off to public since it was filled with immigrants. They’ve been caught filming children swimming by a mate of mine and also robbing kids at knife point. We have a beautiful town gradually getting destroyed. I worked on another place locally that’s had planning to house more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 hours ago, morgan said: I'm sure you are well meaning, but the wokes (if they actually exist), do not have any influence on government policy or legislation I'm sure you're well meaning, but I don't think you have clue how wrong you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: I'm sure you're well meaning, but I don't think you have clue how wrong you are. Fact is - if the government wanted to sort out immigration, it would have done so. Why is the immigration system under funded and not fit for purpose with a four year waiting list ? Is that down to the wokes or the left ? Immigration is a god send for the current government, its appeals to peoples worse fears and predudices, it makes the public feel hard done by and the government appoints BAME female ministers to vilify and animalise sectors of society with thinly veiled racist rhetoric and then we all join in and blame it on the left. Job done, the british public has forgotten the inflated energy and food prices and government corruption. Government sanctioned hatred and fear of migrants is a very connective theme for the British public. If it wasn't migrants, it would be someone else. The LGBT community and black people have been off limits now for some years, we have left europe so not much political capital left there bitching about Brussels. So they created wokes and snowflakes....... I certainly do not believe in uncontrolled migration, the genuine asylum seekers from war zones should be given a safe regularly reviewed residency and the economic migrants be sent home sharpish. The point I'm making is that the government and the media is weaponising the immigration crisis for its own ends and causing division in British society. The same institutions and media moguls are in control of this country now as when the images below were printed - still using the same tactics to gaslight the british public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, morgan said: if the government wanted to sort out immigration, it would have done so 18 minutes ago, morgan said: Immigration is a god send for the current government, its appeals to peoples worse fears and predudices 19 minutes ago, morgan said: then we all join in and blame it on the left. Job done There you go, you've answered your own questions. The left does push woke agendas, climate, LGBTQ, migrants, useful idiots like lineker jump on board this bandwagon for airtime and votes, while demonising anyone who doesn't agree. Division politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rewulf said: There you go, you've answered your own questions. The left does push woke agendas, climate, LGBTQ, migrants, useful idiots like lineker jump on board this bandwagon for airtime and votes, while demonising anyone who doesn't agree. Division politics. That is just media twaddle, the amplification of a minority, who exercise very little power or influence in politics, into the bogeyman. If the wokes are influencing say climate policy- why did the first thing this current administration do when it got into power was to approve 125 new fossil fuel exploration licences. Its a gaslighting myth to cover up the criminal negligence and contempt with which this government regards the British public. Edited March 19, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, morgan said: That is just media twaddle So is your "vote tory' poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 An interesting video today - more focused on Holland and the farmers but it is a view on what is happening- an interesting phrase used - weaponised migration one thing about the local hotel to us is that the company is owned by a guy of Bulgarian/Albanian birth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 " "So is your "vote tory' poster. Maybe you might, but the point remains the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 I have removed some posters(pics) from posts,let's not have stuff from an era long gone put up here for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, welsh1 said: I have removed some posters(pics) from posts,let's not have stuff from an era long gone put up here for all to see. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, welsh1 said: I have removed some posters(pics) from posts,let's not have stuff from an era long gone put up here for all to see. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, morgan said: Fact is - if the government wanted to sort out immigration, it would have done so. Why is the immigration system under funded and not fit for purpose with a four year waiting list ? Is that down to the wokes or the left ? Immigration is a god send for the current government, its appeals to peoples worse fears and predudices, it makes the public feel hard done by and the government appoints BAME female ministers to vilify and animalise sectors of society with thinly veiled racist rhetoric and then we all join in and blame it on the left. Job done, the british public has forgotten the inflated energy and food prices and government corruption. Government sanctioned hatred and fear of migrants is a very connective theme for the British public. If it wasn't migrants, it would be someone else. The LGBT community and black people have been off limits now for some years, we have left europe so not much political capital left there bitching about Brussels. So they created wokes and snowflakes....... I certainly do not believe in uncontrolled migration, the genuine asylum seekers from war zones should be given a safe regularly reviewed residency and the economic migrants be sent home sharpish. The point I'm making is that the government and the media is weaponising the immigration crisis for its own ends and causing division in British society. The same institutions and media moguls are in control of this country now as when the images below were printed - still using the same tactics to gaslight the british public. Come off it, do you really believe are country is institutionaly racist to the point government pushes racist agendas, or that the majority is that thick and only you are enlightened enough to see what they're doing? The only real agendas are the woke ones that are weaved though our society, you only need turn on the TV and see the adverts of vastly over representation of ethnic minoritys and others with protected characteristics, or the laws that are made to give them extra protection. I detest racism in any form as do the overwhelming majority of the country and its not racism to say we are being over run with economic migrants, its a huge problem that is costing the tax payer millions and its not just in upfront costs, its schooling, medical, policing, housing, strain on roads and even the suppression of jobs and wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) I think this government will do anything to deflect criticism and cling on to power. At no time did I say it was racist to address the burdening problem of illegal migration. What I said was, the government could readily sort out the crisis by providing an immigration system fit for purpose, which it has clearly not chosen to do. There is an up to four year waiting list for applications to be processed. Instead it has chosen to conceal its criminal negilgence by weaponising the crisis and attempting to shift the blame for government failings onto the wokes and the left. Also the language used by the BAME ministers in my opinion contains thinly veiled racism. Why are the Ukrainian refugees not demonised in the same manner as say the Syrians or the Iraquis or the Libyans or the Afghanis ? The government is attempting to shut down any criticism of its lack of policies - why was it confident enough to go for a sports presenters tweets on his private social media. Virtually the whole media is in bed with the government. Vast amounts of public money is going to the governments mates in the private sector funding the asylum hotels. Certain sectors of the economy are profiting from this crisis.....its certainly not the wokes or the left or the British working person. Whilst the unnecessary culture wars around immigration continue - everyones eye is off the government failings in the economy and elsewhere. Edited March 19, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 18/03/2023 at 08:38, Ultrastu said: Which village near Bristol are we talking about please? Holiday Inn airport mate is 100% being used for this, and winford.. all male 20-40 yr olds. Airport hotels had multiple call out as they fight amongst themselves.. one even started a fire in their room I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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