Accuspell Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) For those that don't know, The Old Nail is my workhorse .22 Rapid that has had the barrel painted with Hammerite smooth, to prevent it going rusty (it is perfect underneath) and as I don't intend to sell it, I don't care what the prissy Rapid folks think, a bit of Hammerite thinnners and it comes off fairly easily leaving a perfectly rust free barrel underneath. The soft banadage wrap to take the glare off will hold moisture, even if it doesn't get wet, it will hold atmospheric moisture so the paint is to protect from that. Anyone who wraps the rifle should realise this. Anyway I had a problem with her not holding air, Brooksy had a look and couldn't find anything wrong, Big Al had a look and found nothng wrong.... a friend came round and found the problem straight away. I cannot turn the bottle on tight enough to seal it fully. I used to be able to, but not since my accident and subsequent injuries, which is the reason for selling my shotguns. We filled her up and Ray turned the bottle on properly for me. We had a couple of shots in the garden and all seemed fine. The following day I went over to the farm and set up to sight her in at 35 yards. Funny, the target doesn't seem as crisp as I remember... I fired a group as best I could off my home made sticks. It was around the target but not good. I picked another circle and zoomed in from 6x to 12x, the target was still fuzzy but the group was a little bit better because there was less guesswork involved! I started to investigate why the target was out of focus... who the hell turned my eyebell all the way in? I turned it out while looking through the scope and suddenly I could see the veins in the grass leaves at 30 yards! I zoomed back out to 6x and picked a new circle on the little card, bingo, dead centre! I repeated another pellet and chose another new circle, that was also dead centre but I was out of air because we only put a bit in, my cylinder needs taking to be filled and I only had the dregs left. Work in progress but at least I know she is back on song. I just need someone to turn the bottle on tight for me each time now, it is just the last turn to snug the o ring up. I will get Nick next door to do it for me. getting injured later in life is a ******! My home made bipod. It woorks perfectly well, weighs next to nothng, doesn't upset the balance for offhand shooting because I carry it seperately and only get it out if I need to use it. It is two hazel sticks cut to length, for me - cut them longer if you want a sitting bipod. The spring is a rubber band made from a section of bicycle inner tube just turned around and rolled down over the ends tightly. Edited June 25, 2023 by Accuspell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Albeit hundreds of miles away so can’t be relied upon too much but was an experienced fluid power technician. Unless you really have hurt yourself such that, say, you can’t unscrew the top off a carton of milk, you may not have found the answer to the problem and in fact have treated the symptom and not the defect. It’s fair to say that ‘O’ rings work by design and are not reliant upon ‘grunt’. Could I suggest that it may just pay to check the ring size that is fitted and also that of the size that should be? Edited June 25, 2023 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Hello, what type of bottle valve do you have ?, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 I dont think you need all that tape on the gun and scope Accuspell On 21/06/2023 at 14:39, maxwell said: Sorry to hear about your accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, wymberley said: Albeit hundreds of miles away so can’t be relied upon too much but was an experienced fluid power technician. Unless you really have hurt yourself such that, say, you can’t unscrew the top off a carton of milk, you may not have found the answer to the problem and in fact have treated the symptom and not the defect. It’s fair to say that ‘O’ rings work by design and are not reliant upon ‘grunt’. Could I suggest that it may just pay to check the ring size that is fitted and also that of the size that should be? It is the correct O-ring on the bottle, both size and shore. 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, what type of bottle valve do you have ?, the one that came with it in 1996! 30 minutes ago, jall25 said: I dont think you need all that tape on the gun and scope Accuspell Sorry to hear about your accident Probably not, but it does help when ambushing corvids. Thanks, but accidents happen. As a PS - someone has suggested getting a filter wrench to do the bottle up with. Makes sense, because doing the oil filter on the outboard is also a problem. Edited June 25, 2023 by Accuspell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Accuspell said: It is the correct O-ring on the bottle, both size and shore. Because I had this problem with the R-10 which wasn't funny, If you tighten the bottle with the action in the wood, can you tighten it further if you then remove the action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 No, I am just not able to turn the bottle hard enough. Ray had no trouble getting another turn on it. I have the same problem opening 2 litre milk tubs and jamjars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 There are gadgets available for undoing jars etc, and I'm sure if you reverse the item you can do things (R10 bottles etc) up 🤷😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Accuspell said: No, I am just not able to turn the bottle hard enough. Ray had no trouble getting another turn on it. I have the same problem opening 2 litre milk tubs and jamjars. Suffering from carpal tunnel problems in both wrists/hands, I empathise with your problem. Still, at least the rifle sounds good and a small strap wrench may help. My R-10 bottle was 'held off' by about a good half a turn because of a bit of a warp in the wood. Being unaware of this and following the instructions to remove the bottle, the 'bang' was heart attack level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1gun Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Get one of these filter strap Good to see another Rapid still being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 17 hours ago, JKD said: There are gadgets available for undoing jars etc, and I'm sure if you reverse the item you can do things (R10 bottles etc) up 🤷😇 43 minutes ago, Kev1gun said: Get one of these filter strap Good to see another Rapid still being used. That's the gadget 👍🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 26/06/2023 at 09:20, wymberley said: Being unaware of this and following the instructions to remove the bottle, the 'bang' was heart attack level. Did you try taking the bottle off without bleeding anything 😳😳😳🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Mice! said: Did you try taking the bottle off without bleeding anything 😳😳😳🙈 Simply, because I know no better, I was following the instructions in the R-10 SE manual for the removal of the bottle. It was unfortunate that the bottle being fouled on the stock and already partially unscrewed, following said instructions meant that I exceeded the the specified amount. Interference all sanded away and all is now good although now because of my hands anything that may need doing that calls for the bottle to come off will be done by someone else. On that note, can anyone give me a steer for someone tasty to do such work in this (East Devon) neck of the woods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, wymberley said: On that note, can anyone give me a steer for someone tasty to do such work in this (East Devon) neck of the woods? There's a guy who worked on rapids but it could be Cornwall, I'll investigate 👍 You probably got lucky that nothing was damaged, hopefully your bottle doesn't need to come off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted July 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 26/06/2023 at 11:40, Kev1gun said: Get one of these filter strap Good to see another Rapid still being used. Brilliant. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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