ditchman Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 the council have called for it to be re-built.............if that calls for any weight ...i dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 I’m now waiting for the planning application for numerous buildings in its stead???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Given the trick that been blatantly pulled by the new owner, the council should make a point of rejecting any planning application that isn't a replacement for what has been lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Blimey! Rebuild it? It was a wonky old boozer, set, as I remember it, in a fairly derelict post-industrial area, whose only interesting feature was that it was wonky. Authentically wonky, due to the old pit beneath it. To attempt to replicate it would make it as authentic as a Disney fairy castle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Burnt down 1 week after application made to get the building listed , No doubt the application was not from the new owner but the application of a lit match probably was (allegedly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Add to that the lorry load of fresh earth dropped on the approach lane to the site, almost as if the didn’t want fire engines to get to the burning property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 9 hours ago, MirokuMK70 said: Given the trick that been blatantly pulled by the new owner, the council should make a point of rejecting any planning application that isn't a replacement for what has been lost... this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, islandgun said: the council should make a point of rejecting any planning application Unfortunately, whilst the Council might well feel that as well, it is virtually certain that any rejection without firm grounds based on established planning guidance, policy and 'quotas' for areas would be overturned on appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Something on the 'new owners' here; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12386233/Married-couple-face-questions-Britains-wonkiest-pub-fire-demolished.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Hello, if it is found the new owners were responsible for the fire then they should pay for the fire brigade costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 And to pay to rebuild it, exactly as it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Heres another prime building plot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, islandgun said: Heres another prime building plot You'll have a job burning that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I'll give it a go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoyman Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 I live less than a mile from it and no, it wasn't me. The media, locals and allsorts are all over it. Rite of passage sort of pub but not that good. Funniest thing about it is that a two piece were booked to play it called "GASOLINE AND MATCHES", but they had to cancel. caravan site 1/4 mile away also, not saying there is any connection. couple of public footpaths gain access at rear of land Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 hours ago, amateur said: Blimey! Rebuild it? It was a wonky old boozer, set, as I remember it, in a fairly derelict post-industrial area, whose only interesting feature was that it was wonky. Authentically wonky, due to the old pit beneath it. To attempt to replicate it would make it as authentic as a Disney fairy castle. Or the new live action Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Penelope said: Or the new live action Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. You can't say that! Or the new live action Snow White Person and the Seven Dwarves Persons of small stature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Penelope said: Or the new live action Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. 9 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: You can't say that! Or the new live action Snow White Person and the Seven Dwarves Persons of small stature. I will just leave this here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 It was a MAJOR storyline on this evenings BBC 6 o clock News! Not much news worthy material today then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 14 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: It was a MAJOR storyline on this evenings BBC 6 o clock News! Not much news worthy material today then? Must be important because they mentioned it before “global warming/climate change”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, London Best said: Must be important because they mentioned it before “global warming/climate change”. Indeed they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 07:12, JohnfromUK said: Unfortunately, whilst the Council might well feel that as well, it is virtually certain that any rejection without firm grounds based on established planning guidance, policy and 'quotas' for areas would be overturned on appeal. They can just go over the councils head anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 06:37, islandgun said: this On 08/08/2023 at 21:27, MirokuMK70 said: Given the trick that been blatantly pulled by the new owner, the council should make a point of rejecting any planning application that isn't a replacement for what has been lost... I think everybody can see what's happened here , be nice if the council did block all planning applications made on that site but they will just appeal , maybe time for the police to do there job and make arrests and then given some serious jail time more chance of me beating Eddie izzard in Brighton On 09/08/2023 at 09:41, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, if it is found the new owners were responsible for the fire then they should pay for the fire brigade costs yes as the news said the road was block , then the give away a local waste firm owns the land surrounding the pub , Oh i wonder who could of done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 I wonder if the powers that be can find out when the initial quote for the demolition buldozer/digger hire or work was dated as it seems a bit quick from fire to demolition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Andy H said: I wonder if the powers that be can find out when the initial quote for the demolition buldozer/digger hire or work was dated as it seems a bit quick from fire to demolition Guess, but the 'new owners' own an adjacent 'waste business' which shared the same access. My guess is that they will have - or have close contacts with owners of - digger/bulldozers, so doubt much would be learned - and someone would have to take the initiative. That's not common with Councils or Police these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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