Bailey20 Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 BBC News - Gun controls tighten after Plymouth shooting https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wrx5l4gkzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 Better training leading to consistency across the licensing departments no problem. I believe we already have markers on licence holder medical records and have to submit medical reports upon application & renewal anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 How are the police qualified to assess whether applicants should have access to firearms? Also, I thought there was already markers on an applicants medical record alerting their GP to the fact they owned firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Our laws for law abiding folks owning guns are some of the most stringent in Europe. What we need is an office fit to carry out the duty in a timely, efficient and responsible manner. Whether that be at county or national level. Maybe they should clamp down on ghe number of illegal guns in the country. 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 22 hours ago, Scully said: How are the police qualified to assess whether applicants should have access to firearms? Also, I thought there was already markers on an applicants medical record alerting their GP to the fact they owned firearms. 31 minutes ago, manthing said: Our laws for law abiding folks owning guns are some of the most stringent in Europe. What we need is an office fit to carry out the duty in a timely, efficient and responsible manner. Whether that be at county or national level. Maybe they should clamp down on ghe number of illegal guns in the country. 🤷 Bang on. But this '' Maybe they should clamp down on the number of illegal guns in the country. 🤷 '' Is a separate and unconnected argument. The process for gun regulation of individuals works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted Sunday at 09:36 Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:36 On 15/11/2024 at 20:10, Scully said: Also, I thought there was already markers on an applicants medical record alerting their GP to the fact they owned firearms. I had need to request my records (not firearm related) and there is indeed a marker on mine. It says I have a firearm certificate. In fact I have only a SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted Sunday at 11:11 Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:11 16 hours ago, oowee said: Bang on. But this '' Maybe they should clamp down on the number of illegal guns in the country. 🤷 '' Is a separate and unconnected argument. The process for gun regulation of individuals works. It is in deed, but all gun crime is recorded the same way soo 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted Sunday at 11:32 Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:32 1 hour ago, Bobba said: I had need to request my records (not firearm related) and there is indeed a marker on mine. It says I have a firearm certificate. In fact I have only a SGC. the shotgun is still classed as a firearm in any incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted Sunday at 12:46 Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:46 not one word in the BBC article about the Police failing that result in the shotguns being returned or how no action was taken when he assaulted someone prior the plymouth shootings. Just a biased article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted Sunday at 12:55 Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:55 7 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said: not one word in the BBC article about the Police failing that result in the shotguns being returned or how no action was taken when he assaulted someone prior the plymouth shootings. Just a biased article. Maybe the left are so bent that they consider that "normal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted Sunday at 15:31 Report Share Posted Sunday at 15:31 21 hours ago, manthing said: Our laws for law abiding folks owning guns are some of the most stringent in Europe. What we need is an office fit to carry out the duty in a timely, efficient and responsible manner. Whether that be at county or national level. Maybe they should clamp down on the number of illegal guns in the country. 🤷 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windswept Posted Sunday at 17:04 Report Share Posted Sunday at 17:04 7 hours ago, Bobba said: I had need to request my records (not firearm related) and there is indeed a marker on mine. It says I have a firearm certificate. In fact I have only a SGC. Something that might be worth people noting is that medical people can see the marker and wrongly assume what you shoot and your profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted Sunday at 18:34 Report Share Posted Sunday at 18:34 1 hour ago, Windswept said: Something that might be worth people noting is that medical people can see the marker and wrongly assume what you shoot and your profession. True. But as it is my medical practice that also signed off the medical form for my SGC renewal (at quite a reasonable fee) then it is beyond doubt that they would have noted my records. It’s what they’re required to do. We have no say in the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted Sunday at 19:20 Report Share Posted Sunday at 19:20 On 15/11/2024 at 20:10, Scully said: How are the police qualified to assess whether applicants should have access to firearms? Also, I thought there was already markers on an applicants medical record alerting their GP to the fact they owned firearms. They are not, neither are they qualified to deal with those who suffer with a mental illness, but they are called upon to do that daily. Doctors are very reluctant to say that someone is fit to have firearms, their very valid reason being, anyone can 'flip' at any given moment. A normally sane person can be pushed too far, to the extent they will use the firearms they have access to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted Sunday at 19:56 Report Share Posted Sunday at 19:56 25 minutes ago, Westley said: They are not, neither are they qualified to deal with those who suffer with a mental illness, but they are called upon to do that daily. Doctors are very reluctant to say that someone is fit to have firearms, their very valid reason being, anyone can 'flip' at any given moment. A normally sane person can be pushed too far, to the extent they will use the firearms they have access to. Indeed. We really are in a mess. We have politicians who know they are powerless to combat knife and drug crime but constantly deceive a gullible public into claiming they can via legislation, a firearms licensing system administered by an authority which doesn’t want us to own firearms lest they be liable if someone they authorise goes loopy, but resists all suggestions it is removed from them, and a medical system which won’t sanction mental fitness lest they too are held responsible. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted Sunday at 20:39 Report Share Posted Sunday at 20:39 7 hours ago, rbrowning2 said: not one word in the BBC article about the Police failing that result in the shotguns being returned or how no action was taken when he assaulted someone prior the plymouth shootings. Just a biased article. Yes. Telling that they take the time to print Luke Pollard’s opinion once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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