Rottweiller kills one year old lad

[jerico]

well lets see if you are still posting stupid comments if a rottweiler bites you or one of your kids

 

I've been bitten by more animals than you could shake a stick at, from baby caiman's to large constrictors and even horse's.

A bullmastiff grabbed the back of my head when I was eight as I went to see if he was OK as a drunk in the pub family garden was throwing rib bones at him.

A second later and he was licking my face, was he a bad dog, I think not.

 

The worst bite I ever had was when I woke up to hear my jack Russel whimpering on her back, thinking she was hurt I put my hand to her and actually awoke her from a dream, resulting in my hand being mauled.

 

 

There's no animal I would like to see banned or killed because of it's breed, any bite I've had from an animal was because I misread either him or the situation.

[lurcherboy]

The owner/s should be charged with manslaughter.

 

Heartfelt condolences to the parents of the child.

 

 

 

LB

[al4x]

The owner/s should be charged with manslaughter.

 

Heartfelt condolences to the parents of the child.

 

 

 

LB

 

bullocks, by the sounds of it a 16 year old auntie of the child was in charge of them, one child went to see the dog and something happened resulting in it grabbing the younger child.

To me this says the owners were trying to keep the dogs away from the kids by keeping the dog in the yard and tragedy struck while they weren't there. Children being children especially if they know the dog well opened the door by the sounds of it. All this trying to blame people does no good at all they will suffer for ever for the event.

 

As for classing rotweillers in the same bracket as Pit bulls thats totally wrong. I've experienced a lot of pit bulls and wouldn't trust one at all yet I would trust a lot of rotweillers. If you are going to ban them then you would need to ban all the Terrier breeds all collies etc etc as these can be just as bad they rarely kill due to their size but I'd lay money on them being responsible for most dog bites.

 

This tells a bit more of the story from it the dog could even have mistaken the child for a toy.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7163696.stm

[lurcherboy]

The owner/s should be charged with manslaughter.

 

Heartfelt condolences to the parents of the child.

 

 

 

LB

 

bullocks, by the sounds of it a 16 year old auntie of the child was in charge of them, one child went to see the dog and something happened resulting in it grabbing the younger child.

To me this says the owners were trying to keep the dogs away from the kids by keeping the dog in the yard and tragedy struck while they weren't there. Children being children especially if they know the dog well opened the door by the sounds of it. All this trying to blame people does no good at all they will suffer for ever for the event.

 

As for classing rotweillers in the same bracket as Pit bulls thats totally wrong. I've experienced a lot of pit bulls and wouldn't trust one at all yet I would trust a lot of rotweillers. If you are going to ban them then you would need to ban all the Terrier breeds all collies etc etc as these can be just as bad they rarely kill due to their size but I'd lay money on them being responsible for most dog bites.

 

This tells a bit more of the story from it the dog could even have mistaken the child for a toy.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7163696.stm

 

 

They weren't trying hard enough al4x my statement still stands.

 

 

 

 

 

LB

[dustyfox]

The owner/s should be charged with manslaughter.

 

Heartfelt condolences to the parents of the child.

 

 

 

LB

 

bullocks, by the sounds of it a 16 year old auntie of the child was in charge of them, one child went to see the dog and something happened resulting in it grabbing the younger child.

To me this says the owners were trying to keep the dogs away from the kids by keeping the dog in the yard and tragedy struck while they weren't there. Children being children especially if they know the dog well opened the door by the sounds of it. All this trying to blame people does no good at all they will suffer for ever for the event.

 

As for classing rotweillers in the same bracket as Pit bulls thats totally wrong. I've experienced a lot of pit bulls and wouldn't trust one at all yet I would trust a lot of rotweillers. If you are going to ban them then you would need to ban all the Terrier breeds all collies etc etc as these can be just as bad they rarely kill due to their size but I'd lay money on them being responsible for most dog bites.

 

This tells a bit more of the story from it the dog could even have mistaken the child for a toy.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7163696.stm

 

 

They weren't trying hard enough al4x my statement still stands.

 

 

 

 

 

LB

 

Why couldnt they put a muzzle on the dog, I know its not good to leave it on the dog for a long time but I am sure the parents wouldnt of been long. Or could they have put up a kennel and lock it up when the go away.

[Bagsy]

Now to those who poo poo banning rotties / pit bulls etc and say why not ban everything guns already mentioned, well for those who dont know the difference , one is a living object with a mind of its own,that regardless what smartarses think cannot be totally controlled, and one is an inanimate object that should be attended at all times by a person deemed fit own and vetted to prove the same, and locked away when not, or would you allow a 7 year old to walk around a house that has a loaded gun or guns left unnatended in any room.

cheers KW

 

Try telling that to an anti gun lobbyist. To them there is no excuse for owning a gun - period. Nothing you or I could say would change the way they feel. The point is there is always someone who is anti something that someone else happens to enjoy.

 

Last time I looked we were living in a free society. Unfortunately our freedoms and rights are slowly but surely being eroded away by those who always think they know better. If they don't like it they ban it.

 

ONE death or injury by a dog is too many and they can all be avoided. But we all need to be very carefull when calling on things to be banned - whether it be a gun or a rottie both are things people own and enjoy - but once banned there will be no turning back.

 

With freedom comes responsibility and Rottie owners are accountable for their actions (or the actions of their dogs) as gun owners are responsible for their guns.

 

A mate of mine was bottled by a fat thug wearing a Newcastle football shirt once. Why? Because, like many, he couldn't handle the fact his team lost what was, after all, just a game. Let's ban football as well, it would prevent many more injuries and deaths in the future then banning Rotties ever would. In fact no, let's just ban Newcastle United, because I happen to dislike them as a result of what happened.

[Floating Chamber]

FC

[Dave-G]

There's been another Rottie attack in Leicester last night. This is about a year after a similar event in the same cess pit estate (New Parks)where this type of dog is used as some sort of hardness status symbol, unfortunately the last time a child was killed.

 

Another dog at the same address is called "Tyson" which really says it all for me.

[scaffman73]

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

 

Salisburykeeper you always been an ****hole

 

Nothing wrong with the breed, just big powerful dogs. Any dog can bite you at any time. So your saying that a lab couldn't kill a child in the same way.

[Cranfield]

In the newspapers today the 17 year old mother is being criticised for leaving the child with a 16 year old babysitter.

[Chard]

In the newspapers today the 17 year old mother is being criticised for leaving the child with a 16 year old babysitter.

 

[al4x]

sad that someone always has to be slated in the papers, you can only imagine what they are going through at the moment. As far as I know legally you have to be over 14 to babysit so why do they need to give the mother more grief.

[Mrs Sweepy]

i have views on this but am not going to air them .who am i to judge .

all i know is that there is some poor women out there .dont matter what her aged is .who has lost a child in such a shocking way.

as a mum my feelings are for her and her famliy

suzy

[rjimmer]

No such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners!

 

No such thing as a bad kid, only bad parents!

 

 

DISCUSS!!

[mossy835]

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

 

do not agree with you, it could have happened with any breed of dog.i have a german sheperd but who knows what it could do, two any one.

[Gordon R]

QUOTE(salisburykeeper @ Dec 29 2007, 01:27 AM)

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

Salisburykeeper - do you own a dog? I think that whatever dog you own should be banned. It has the same potential to harm. Don't talk about the size of dog or breed. They can all bite and virtually any dog could kill a one year old child - Springers, Cockers, Bull Mastiffs(the Gamekeeper of old's friend), Collies. It boils down to the irresponsible idiots who own dogs or let their children go near potentially dangerous animals.

[russuk]

QUOTE(salisburykeeper @ Dec 29 2007, 01:27 AM)

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

Salisburykeeper - do you own a dog? I think that whatever dog you own should be banned. It has the same potential to harm. Don't talk about the size of dog or breed. They can all bite and virtually any dog could kill a one year old child - Springers, Cockers, Bull Mastiffs(the Gamekeeper of old's friend), Collies. It boils down to the irresponsible idiots who own dogs or let their children go near potentially dangerous animals.

 

Spot on Gordon.

 

Blame the moronic owners not the breed of dog. Having grown up with my grandparents having Rottwiellers and Dobermans I simply can not agree with sailsburykeepers idea that as family pets rottwiellers are rediculous. Any dog has the potential to harm, this potential is only hightened by the idiot owners.

 

This ban culture is also disturbing. "Ban rotties cos some people use them to look all 'ard". Couldn't exactly the same be said for the tool we hold dearly and use for our sport?

[salisburykeeper]

QUOTE(salisburykeeper @ Dec 29 2007, 01:27 AM)

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

Salisburykeeper - do you own a dog? I think that whatever dog you own should be banned. It has the same potential to harm. Don't talk about the size of dog or breed. They can all bite and virtually any dog could kill a one year old child - Springers, Cockers, Bull Mastiffs(the Gamekeeper of old's friend), Collies. It boils down to the irresponsible idiots who own dogs or let their children go near potentially dangerous animals.

I totally agree it comes down to the owners but thers a bit of a difference between having something like a jack russell hanging off your arm to a rottweiler, the point im trying to make is that if you had a so called "nice" rottweiler and one day it turned on your child and you didnt have your gun to hand how many seconds do you think it would take to kill your kid? and how exactly would you go about stopping it atacking? they are ridiculus dogs! im entitled to my opinion and i dont think they should be kept as pets, they are renowned for being agressive. yes any dog can bite and yes terrier breeds are little **** when it comes to biting sometimes but they arent as much of a threat to people as a rottweiler, ive been in situations where i have been fortunate enough to handle lions and tigers, these are placid too but can and will turn on people, my point is you just cant stop a big animal like that and they definatly should not be so readily available as pets especially to chavs and suchlike

[Guest The Outlaw]

You could ban rottweillers (then it would be another breed), you could ban one year old boys (then it would be an older, or younger boy/girl), you could ban idiot adults that have the brain capacity of an earwig being left in charge of dogs and children (Mmmmmmmmm, that has some merit).

 

Whatever the circumstances, its a tragedy for the little lad.

 

The best yet

 

 

We have a new dog and will not let it out of our sight even with a 6 and an 11 year old.

 

Kids can be spiteful and the dog will reluctantly defend itself, as I would and any one else would if they are oppressed.

 

I dont know the circumstances and again will not bother.

 

Its the same old same old and it gets boring.

 

Tony

[Guest The Outlaw]

QUOTE(salisburykeeper @ Dec 29 2007, 01:27 AM)

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

Salisburykeeper - do you own a dog? I think that whatever dog you own should be banned. It has the same potential to harm. Don't talk about the size of dog or breed. They can all bite and virtually any dog could kill a one year old child - Springers, Cockers, Bull Mastiffs(the Gamekeeper of old's friend), Collies. It boils down to the irresponsible idiots who own dogs or let their children go near potentially dangerous animals.

I totally agree it comes down to the owners but thers a bit of a difference between having something like a jack russell hanging off your arm to a rottweiler, the point im trying to make is that if you had a so called "nice" rottweiler and one day it turned on your child and you didnt have your gun to hand how many seconds do you think it would take to kill your kid? and how exactly would you go about stopping it atacking? they are ridiculus dogs! im entitled to my opinion and i dont think they should be kept as pets, they are renowned for being agressive. yes any dog can bite and yes terrier breeds are little **** when it comes to biting sometimes but they arent as much of a threat to people as a rottweiler, ive been in situations where i have been fortunate enough to handle lions and tigers, these are placid too but can and will turn on people, my point is you just cant stop a big animal like that and they definatly should not be so readily available as pets especially to chavs and suchlike

You had better ban Border Collies as well then because they are even more likley to snap or nip at an annoyance, its

 

in the breeding and it is enhanced when they work sheep.

 

Tony

[darebear]

In the newspapers today the 17 year old mother is being criticised for leaving the child with a 16 year old babysitter.

 

now that amuses me.

 

oh, and made me roll my eyes as well.

[russuk]

QUOTE(salisburykeeper @ Dec 29 2007, 01:27 AM)

Personally i think rottwiellers should be banned like pit bulls, I cant see the point in having them aprt from having them as guard dogs! as family pets its ridiculous.they are usually kept by people who use them as a status symbol, to prove they really are muppets!

 

Salisburykeeper - do you own a dog? I think that whatever dog you own should be banned. It has the same potential to harm. Don't talk about the size of dog or breed. They can all bite and virtually any dog could kill a one year old child - Springers, Cockers, Bull Mastiffs(the Gamekeeper of old's friend), Collies. It boils down to the irresponsible idiots who own dogs or let their children go near potentially dangerous animals.

I totally agree it comes down to the owners but thers a bit of a difference between having something like a jack russell hanging off your arm to a rottweiler, the point im trying to make is that if you had a so called "nice" rottweiler and one day it turned on your child and you didnt have your gun to hand how many seconds do you think it would take to kill your kid? and how exactly would you go about stopping it atacking? they are ridiculus dogs! im entitled to my opinion and i dont think they should be kept as pets, they are renowned for being agressive. yes any dog can bite and yes terrier breeds are little **** when it comes to biting sometimes but they arent as much of a threat to people as a rottweiler, ive been in situations where i have been fortunate enough to handle lions and tigers, these are placid too but can and will turn on people, my point is you just cant stop a big animal like that and they definatly should not be so readily available as pets especially to chavs and suchlike

 

So, just to clarify. You want every 'large' dog banning? If a Rottie is too big an animal to be kept as a pet, then how about Mastiffs, Dobermans, Great Danes, Newfies or any large or giant dog breed?

[Fleabag]

brothet phoned me just now said his doberman who is normally shy and playfull just bit his neigbours daughter full on in the head, is going to vets tomorrow to put it to sleep.

[dustyfox]

Take a read of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottweiler. Read the bit on Temperament I think that explains it all. It says Aggression in Rottweilers is associated with poor breeding, poor handling, lack of socialization, natural guarding tendencies, and abuse.

 

Edit: Aggressiveness

In recent years the breed has received some negative publicity, possibly related to the fact that Rottweilers were the number two breed of dog named in fatal human attacks from 1979 to 1998 in a report by the CDC.[6]. Dangerous behavior in Rottweilers results from their original breeding for aggressive guard dog traits. This tendency may extend towards other animals as well. Often injuries and maulings occur when an owner or passerby tries to separate fighting dogs, or unintentionally triggers a guarding behavior in a dog. In most cases, the type of behavior a Rottweiler exhibits is the result of past training (or lack thereof).[citation needed] Rottweilers may either be dangerous or benign, depending on the action taken by the owner in socializing the dog. The portrayal of Rottweilers as evil dogs in several fictional films and TV series, most notably in The Omen, has added to their negative publicity. Rottweilers are banned in many municipalities, some scattered countries, and are sometimes targeted as dangerous dogs by legislation. Many owners of Rottweilers are forced to obey state leash/muzzle laws, as in Germany and in France

[lewis]

Take a read of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottweiler. Read the bit on Temperament I think that explains it all. It says Aggression in Rottweilers is associated with poor breeding, poor handling, lack of socialization, natural guarding tendencies, and abuse.

yeah you cant blame the dog.. its what their bred for.

 

its like dressing up in a rabbit costume and running infront of a lurcher. you cant stop it

 

Lew