crowstopper Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I am interested in getting one, does anyone know where do you get them and I know you need a licence but where do you also get one of these from???:look:??:)????? Thanks for any info Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I know a friend who bought a barn owl for £50 from some owl sanctury in cornwall, i'll find out the name and number it you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted July 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Thanks could do if you want mate, do you know anything about the licence because I know you have to have one of sorts ? crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I don't know about the liecence. The guy's brother is only just started secondary school, so it can't be that difficult to get a liecence. I'll find out where the place is and get back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 go to www.workingterrier.co.uk post in the falconry forum theyll give you the answers most are a great bunch of guys and gals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted July 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 i will have a look at that site now jordan thanks crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I think its more of a religion than a country sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I think its more of a religion than a country sport. Must admit when i saw the title i thought it was going to be about a girls bible class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JONO Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Difficult sport for beginners mind. If they fly away you'll be losing your religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONO Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I s'pose my local vicar has been advocating hunting sports then in asking his congregation to "let us prey". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 An "eyrie" silence to that one Jono. Crowstopper. All British Birds of Prey are protected under the Countryside and Wildlife act of 1981. It is illegal to take any British Hawk or Falcon or its eggs from the wild with out as you know a licence which is issued by the Secretary of State for the Environment. In order to keep a Bird of Prey for Falconry you must satisfy certain criteria and be able to demonstrate proper housing facilities and authorised access to a large area of land to fly the birds. It is not something to be taken lightly and contrary to what you might of heard obtaining licences to keep a bird of prey is not easy. They are not often issued in fact they are almost as rare as Rocking Horse ****. I had a licence for and flew a harris hawk in the late 80,s the licence was never renewed after the bird died ( of natural causes) in 1994. It is a most absorbing "Hobby" ( excuse the pun) but to " break and train" a bird of prey to the standard you see at Falconry exhibitions takes agreat deal of time and dedication. If you are serious about starting Falconry I would make contact with The British Falconers Club, and consider joining. Their web address is www.britishfalconersclub.co.uk Barn Owls although classed as BOP are a slightly different affair. I suspect Vulchas friend purchased a captive Owl from a breeding establishment as these birds soon die if released into the wild. The birds once too old for breeding are disposed of to suitable handlers to live out the rest of their natural lives. Certificates for the aquisition and disposal of Barn Owls are issued by DEFRA. For information on Barn Owls i suggest you visit www.barnowltrust.org.uk Just to remind you about the severity of penalties for the illegal possession of a BOP... Fines of up to 5k are regularly imposed... Good Luck. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted July 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Thanks fisherman mike for the info, and 2 you lot I am useless at thinking of titles for new topics. I must confess it is a bit of a bad title. Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I must confess it is a bit of a bad title. Crowstopper, the title itself wasn't so bad, it was the fact that you spelt "prey"with an "a" instead of with an "e", hence all the religious cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 peregrin would be tidy or a owl. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 the little i do know is if its your first bird dont go for something small a buzzard or harris is an ideal starting bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Fisherman mike where do you get you information from!!!! Most of the post that i have just read is absulte twaddle. NO1. You do not nor never have needed a licence to own or fly a harris hawk. As a non endigeonous spiecies of this country they are exempt from article 10 licences. Same goes for all other non endigenous spiecies, ie. Redtail hawk, Coppers hawk and many others that are flown at quarry in this country. No 2. You do not by law need to meet the criteria that you have stated you do not need vast tracts of land with authorised access, to own or fly a bird. The quote you made from the british falconers club is just that particuler clubs philosophie. No3 When you buy a captive bred bird it already has an article ten licence. The licence is then transfered to you. So when you make a post about something you know nothing about do some more research. Miss information is as bad as ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Tiercel, I suggest you read my post again and read it properly... Did I say in it that it was a legal requirement to have proper housing facilities or access to large expance of land..... No Yes true this is the recommendations of the BFC and very good they are too Did I say that You needed a licence to Own and Fly a HH... No I did not. I can assure you that I had to obtain a licence for my HH from the MOE as it was not captive bred as you assumed but imported. It is a sad fact which I am sure you agree with that every year more and more birds of Prey are turning up at sanctuaries in poor and distressed conditions ( and many more sadly dont even make it that far) because theirowners have bitten off more than they can chew and dont have the proper facilities to train or fly a bird correctly. The criticism levelled at me in your post is unfounded and I certainly know what I am talking about. Sure tell everybody that it is easy, now every tom **** & harry will be looking for birds. My post was meant in good faith to advise Crowstopper of the correct way to go about things to avoid the above. I would imagine from your Post name that you would welcome my comments to afford some protection to these magnificent birds.. It is easy to be critical mate... And far easier to be ignorant also. Dont bother apologising I am very thick skinned, Just make a donation to the BFC and consider joining your self you might learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowstopper Posted July 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Crowstopper, the title itself wasn't so bad, it was the fact that you spelt "prey"with an "a" instead of with an "e", hence all the religious cracks. ernyha, once again Microsoft Word has let me down which I use to type up my posts as my spelling is extremely bad . I don’t recon I will live this one down lol cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 We knew what you meant Crow... Amen. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone... FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pigeon master Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Crowstopper, I reckon that you should wait untill retirement before you consider flying hawks and falcons. They require so much time to get the best from them and when I say time I mean lots of it, you can not just lock them up like a gun and expect them to work when you wnat them too. As a young lad I also flew harris, kestrel and buzzard and although the hunt is some of the best you can imagine, the up keep of these fantastic birds is atleast 3 hours a day. I would love a new bird but I know that I would not be able to put the time in everyday to ensure they are tip top. Take the comments from FM and Tiercel and keep well away untill you know everything about handling, training and the pros oand cons of each bird. Happy woody shooting The PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEREGRINE Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Please do not get a bird unless you have been on a course with a recognised professional falconer. I am sick and tired of being called out to these bloody beginners who have more money than sense and have bought a bird from unscrupulus dealers who care nothing for the birds and will sell one to the first idiot who turns up with the cash. if you get a bird without knowing anything about it odds are it will end up dead or lost. A bird of prey requires lots of time, money and patience. Housing it correctly alone can cost a small fortune without equipment food vets etc. it is not a lurcher or a ferret it requires specialist handling and training which not many people can provide unless they have been shown how. The state of some of these birds when they have been with an unsupervised beginner for a week or two is a crying bloody shame and will go a long way to getting the sport stopped!!! The least you can do is spend some money on getting a good book on the subject first never mind the bird!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Welcome to the Forum Peregrine... A more wiser and informative first post I have yet to read and quite, quite true. I have seen some of the results of "amateur" falconers and being a birdman it breaks my bleedin heart. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEREGRINE Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 You obviously know the score Mike, falconry is the most exciting and exhilarating of field sports when done correctly and a travesty when done badly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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