Fatcatsplat Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Looking to get my first gun dog. Have had staffs and boxers as pets, but looking for something to train to flush and retrieve. Missus not overly keen on springers, so i was thinking of a clumber spaniel. Anyone had good/bad experiences with them? I understand that there are potentially hip, back and eye problems, but wondered how commonly these problems occurred. Any help appreciated. Thanks Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Enter stage left the Sweepy(s) They should be able to talk to you about all things Clumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 From what I have read about the Sweepys experirnce with their Clumber, the dog is as much as a life experience as a gun dog. Clumbers always seem so layed back to me, set against a springers hypo activity. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Thanks Gary and Webber - Sweepys......are you out there?? Any advice much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dear mr Fatcatsplat, I have just spent the last hour replying to your post. To only go and wipe the whole lot off Once i have finish hitting my head against the living room wall .And blameing.sweepy for it.(even though his not here) I will be chilled . And will start once again. WATCH THIS SPACE. xxxxsuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Cheers Mrs S - Look forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 mr Fatcatsplat. I have just had a brill idea. I shell PM. You my phone number then you can ring and ask me want you want . Than i can answer you qustions better ok . xxxxsuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 im still watching the space olny jokin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ess Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Do yourself a favour forget the clumber, get yourself a black lab from a good working strain, you won't regret it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Why should he rule out a Clumber? They are a fabulous working dog when chosen from reliable lines and breeding, with excellant bird find ability and great drive for putting them in the air. They are as bidable as any well bred lab and then some. They are also far less hyper than most Labs and Springers, making them an excellant choice for the upland shooter. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 why get a black lab?everyone and their brothers got one ive just got a fox red one.but was interested in either a clumber or a sussex spaniel.its nice to go wiyh something different and not be boring and go with the safe option.hope you get a nice clumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 So are clumber and sussex spaniels a bit more '' mature'' than the average springer spaniel ? Also what are the differences between a cocker and a clumber as ive never seen one before, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I would say that they are more mature than the average Springer, and for the most part easier for the "mature" gunner to follow in the field. As for Cockers, the ones that I have had the pleasure to know and follow have all ran on jet fuel wonderful little dogs but not known as pocket rockets for nothing. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Clumbers came recommended from a family friend, basically for their temperament, brains and ability to work (as well as passing the Aaaahhhh factor for the missus). With a bit of luck, i've managed to attach a picture!! Am working tonight Mrs S, but will give you a call tomorrow evening if i may. Thanks, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I think when alot of people think of the clumber. they think of a overweight show dog. who can hardly move .And when it do its is a very slow dog. Now the working strain is nothing like this what so ever .far from it . I would even go as far and say the clumber could match any lab in the field in abilityand stamina. Sammy before his first haircut. even on walks he is always working the hedgerows . And if he picks up the scent of a bird he will not move from that spot till he gets that bird up. And he may be a bit slower then the springer. But he has as stamina and willpower to match any other gundog. xxxxsuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Those rabbits look tired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I see in your pics you have the show ones . hope this pic helps with the wow factor. for you wife . call tomorrow will be fine xxxsuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Have a word with Shavesgreen on the shooting communtiy website, he trains and works clumbers and they do very well, lovely looking dogs IMHO. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Have a look here: http://www.workingclumber.co.uk/ and here: http://www.sedgehurstclumbers.co.uk/intro.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Have a look here: http://www.workingclumber.co.uk/ and here: http://www.sedgehurstclumbers.co.uk/intro.htm Yes, those would be the touchstones for working Clumbers, unless you're asking as someone did earlier about the brown ones (Sussex) though I'm surprised at NTTF's benediction for their being as "biddable as a Lab." Hah, the old "Labs are born half-trained, spaniels die half-trained" saw can be emended for Clumbers as "most go through their entire lives untrained." Though thanks to the Working Clumber Assn., and James Darley and the Zurich clan, that's taken a different twist of late. Wouldn't think a Clumber, or Sussex or Welshie a good candidate for someone training his or her first gundog, though--just an (informed) opinion. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 "Clumber Spaniels: Any advantage?" The orchid police would surely say so: http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/news.php?id=91702 Ours also do some apprehending in the name of horticulture: MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 LOL Cracker that just made my day Do you think they will want Clumbers+Sussex on the police force now After all they do have Bloodhounds and Springers xxxxsuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 They always struck me as a bit like Bassets though... The ones I saw the other week were _very_ sweet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Have a look here: http://www.workingclumber.co.uk/ and here: http://www.sedgehurstclumbers.co.uk/intro.htm The Zurick's (sedgehurst clumbers) live in the next village over from me and to see their Clumbers work is something to behold. Fantastic dogs. If you are thinking of getting one I would recommend you speak to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 I was talking to Debbie Zurick yesterday and there are two litters of Working Clumber pups registered with the Working Clumber Society in the UK at this time. If you get hold of her through the Sedgehurst link she will gladly point you in the right direction. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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