pigeon cartridges

[joeshaw08]

I've started using Eley Maximums, 34g 5's. I thought at first 5's would have a sense of 'overkill' to 'em, but they havent half got some stoppin power. I've had clean kills out to 50-60yards with true cylinder, the 5s give you that extra bit of room to play with.

 

Only downside is they're BRIGHT PINK!!!

[Admiral Von Tirpitz]

Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32g are my favorite for general purpose on pigeons and like, also great for normal range rabbits, but for extra range and sometimes for the second or third shot I load up with Buffalo 4 or 5 shot, they seriously have a extra 10-20 yards increase in kill power. Have also recently dropped a couple of close range foxes with those with ease. They also do a BB round but I find them less effective on aerial targets.

 

Tried 21g Hull Competition X on clays recently, cheap at £120 for 1000 and they hit just as well as 28g loads, plus much lighter when carrying 100 or so around in a box/bag.

 

Admiral

[Ferret Master]

I've started using Eley Maximums, 34g 5's. I thought at first 5's would have a sense of 'overkill' to 'em, but they havent half got some stoppin power. I've had clean kills out to 50-60yards with true cylinder, the 5s give you that extra bit of room to play with.

 

Only downside is they're BRIGHT PINK!!!

And plastic wadded.

 

Seriously though all this talk of heavy pigeon cartridges is rubbish. In any normal decoying situation 28-32g of 6's is all you will ever need through 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Although having said that I would not even consider using 21g clay cartridges in 7.5's or 8's for pigeons.

 

As for the Buffalo 36g BB cartridge not being particularly effective on aerial targets, it's hardly suprising given the size of the pellet. I've patterned that particular cartridge at 35m through half choke and there were holes far larger than a pigeon in the pattern.

 

FM

[joeshaw08]

Yes plastic wadded...is that a problem

 

Yes number 6's are ideal for decoying but considering that at the moment im using a shotgun with no chokes and just true cylinder, i like the extra bit of range for the high birds which the 5's provide, otherwise im gonna miss or injure the bird.

 

Its my understanding when buying carts to buy the best you can afford and in my opinion, these are the best for the job.

[Ferret Master]

Well, personally I really don't like plastic wads. They don't rot down and just litter the countryside as well as being a theat to livestock when a modern fibre wad provides just a good pattern.

 

Baring in mind the old mantra... pattern fails before penertration I wonder what the comparison is between 32g of 6 and 34g of 5's through cylinder. Anyone out there got an Eley Shooter's Diary with the calculations in?

 

FM

[commonkeeper]

Personally i buy the cheapest that are fibre wadded and 32g+ no. 5 i buy 25 rnds and try b 1or 2 on the patern plate and the rest on pigeons if i like i buy in bulk if not i get the next cheapest brand and try them

 

commonkeeper

[Admiral Von Tirpitz]

Just to clarify, I agree, I would only use 21g 7.5s for clay pigeons as per my post and would consider than real pigeons would laugh at those. BBs can hit aerial targets, not ideal, but a good shot fired, it would be a lucky pigeon to fly through such barrage at 50 or 60 yards, if it then got hit by one pellet its coming down and at that height the flight crew on board need to do well to avoid a fatal crash land.

[deejay]

Just to clarify, I agree, I would only use 21g 7.5s for clay pigeons as per my post and would consider than real pigeons would laugh at those. BBs can hit aerial targets, not ideal, but a good shot fired, it would be a lucky pigeon to fly through such barrage at 50 or 60 yards, if it then got hit by one pellet its coming down and at that height the flight crew on board need to do well to avoid a fatal crash land.

while we are on the 21g 7.5 there i had got one mixed in with others (yeah i know it was white )just when they are flying hard and fast you aint got time, anyway it had gone quiet and i took 5 for cuppa looked up and there was this pigeon in the pattern ,thought i would give it a chance so clapped and it flew off but not up it come up about 6 foot and just kept on flying after i had done all the safty checks this thing was now about 50 yards away and moving ,so Bang try my luck one shot and it fell like a bag of hammers.not tried them since ,yeah all it takes is one pellet in the right place but what about the ones in the wrong place

[George1990]

I wouldn't feel comfortable using anything less than 30g on quarry. You'd have to hit spot on every time with 28g i feel. Size 7 and 8 are really tiny shot sizes when you see the holes made in cardboard, so i'd never use these either on live quarry. But that's just me.

 

I am new to pigeon shooting so I've only used one type which are RC Sipe 32g 6. These are between £56 and £61 per 250, which is quite steep, but they hit like a train, especially through a 3/4 choke. :lol:

What do people think of Game Bore Clear Pigeon? These are what I wanted but they were out of stock

[Highlander]

Every gun will shoot different cartridges differently and if you're using multi chokes that will also add another dimension to the equation. You should pattern plate your gun with a few different cartridges to find the one that does what you want and then stick with that. OR you could just buy the cheapest cartridges going and hope for the best!

[derwentman]

Hi all i shoot with sellier and bellot 32g 6.5 they dont half knock them out of the sky although you know at the end of the day you been shooting and they dont half make your ears ring if you forget your defenders id recommend them to anyone

Edited September 18, 2008 by derwentman

[bad shot]

i have used sipe but thay kick a bit to much for me i use s4 thay are baby sipes and are quck !!

[the hitman]

I went to my local gunshop yesterday , to get my usual clear pigeon . But after chatting to the chap in there i came out with 1000 maionchi prima 28gm no 7 1/2 . Quite a few shooters are using them on pigeons and at £150 per thousand , they are cheaper than a game shell. Anyone used them.

[henry d]

............1000 maionchi prima 28gm no 7 1/2 .

 

Don`t use them for birds over 30m or under 15m, you`ll ***** the former and pluck the latter

[the hitman]

Thanks henry , my usual 20 yrds will be spot on then

[henry d]

One last thing.........sell them, don`t eat them .........unless you like lead

[the hitman]

When i have given them a good test i will give you my verdict.

[anser2]

Hitman next time you are in your gunshop ask them to stock Rio game shells. They are £15 a thousand cheaper than the Maionchi. Even cheaper the Rio 28gr target loads in 6s are a bril pigeon cartridge.

[Cranfield]

I have just bought 1000 Eley Realtree Pigeon, 30gm, No6.5, fibre wad to try.

 

Having heard good reports, the price was right (£173 per 1000) and knowing that Eley don't make bad cartridges, it seems a good gamble.

I normally use Gamebore Clear Pigeon 30gm, No6, fibre wad, but the price has gone through the ceiling.

 

One downside I have already found with the Eley Advantage, is that the cases are green and I normally use a AL391 semi.

Lots of crawling through the undergrowth looking for cartridge cases may feature heavily in my future.

[anser2]

I was very disapointed with the Eley Realtree cartridges. Yes they were a good cartridge for pigeon shooting , but being realtree I at least expected Advantage realtree patten on the shell caseing perhaps , Max 4 wads or wetlands camo shot. All I got in realtree camo was a pretty box.

 

Joking apart a good cartridge though very pricy compared to Rio.

[Ferret Master]

I would rather use the Eley HB Pigeon in fibre rather than the realtree for the reasons that have been mentioned. A red cartridge is much much easier to find in undergrowth in my experience and also they are only £3 more per thousand. They're 32g though.

 

FM

[Whitebridges]

I've just been through 400 realtree and they work fine but the colour is crep, you can't find 'em easy on the ground. Will go back to the 32g HB red jobs when the stock comes in.

[Cranfield]

FM, I didn't realise they were green, or I wouldn't have bought them, but I would had to have found another alternative, as I don't shoot 32 gm cartridges.

[Gareth_Northern Ireland]

i use diana 32g 6s super speed any1 use them. i find them good

[tweedledee]

i use diana 32g 6s super speed any1 use them. i find them good

do you buy them from the man in toomebridge???