Bagsy Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 just wasted 5 minutes. going for a bath :blink: Why, did you loose the soap Markio, top work. Did the clay come out of that trap, if so it's all a bit beyond my simplistic means as the clay would surely have been going in the general direction of the hedge..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I have downloaded the picture and exploded the shell / shot string inconclusive :blink: what worries me is, if the dark object is the what we are supposed to be looking at and remember this is DTL then the bird would've been at a very extreme angle and the gun would've been pointing across the next station but then a two dimensional image could make things appear all to cock i am confused, but then i am easily confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Ah ah. After all that I am going for answer (a) shell casing, final answer thank you Chris. It will need a high res photo to convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) 9 people looking at this thread as i type Edited November 1, 2008 by peck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I take your 9 and raise you to 11 11 Members: tosspot, charlie 1, dustyfox, hawkeye, dazza, scifiden, peck, Bazooka Joe, davie mac, Spaniel, hodge911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 My money is on an empty case. It's too dark and solid for a shot string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) Come on Peter, i do not think anyone has slated you, just maybe disagreed, why not come back and tell us exactly where you think the shot ball is, we are all thinking that its just to the right of the shed, if its somewhere else please tell us we would all love to know. Just one more thing have you put up the correct picture, if you have been trying to capture the shot in flight for some time maybe you picked the wrong picture by mistake. so come on peter, take a deep breath swallow either your pride or embarresment and rejoin us, go on you know it makes sence. Edited November 1, 2008 by peck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 IMO it is the shot string. If it was a case i wold of thought you would see some evidence of the brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slarti54 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 You can see the white print and the yellowish of the brass on the left hand side of the "shot"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 You can see the white print and the yellowish of the brass on the left hand side of the "shot"... that is the grass behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Been posted on here before, but E-ARE anyway http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgn1nhUEgo8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadster50 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) My father, (suspended from PW) has studied the pic. Conclusion: Shot does not come from the ejection port of an auto! The puff of smoke from the muzzle, indicates that the spent shell (visible to the right) has been ejected, and, being as the shot would have been at least three feet down-range before the bolt was even unlocked, the ejecta (shot/wad) would be 'invisible' to anything but a FastAx camera at 4000 frames per second. Only 'spark photos' would see the wad/shot clearly. Edited: addition of 'would' Edited November 1, 2008 by breadster50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJUK Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I have increased the size of the 26 kb photo by 500%. I have also sharpened the photo - but that is all I have done. Behold... Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 My father, (suspended from PW) has studied the pic. Conclusion: Shot does not come from the ejection port of an auto. The puff of smoke from the muzzle, indicates that the spent shell (visible to the right) has been ejected, and, being as the shot would have been at least three feet down-range before the bolt was even unlocked, the ejecta (shot/wad) would be 'invisible' to anything but a FastAx camera at 4000 frames per second. Only 'spark photos' would see the wad/shot clearly. Edited: addition of 'would' See! and he's a suspender so it must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 And voila... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breadster50 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 It looks like an Eley 'First' to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJUK Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I know nothing about guns. But, in that photo, the solid black object looks to be in the foreground and one solid item, like a big bit of plastic or similar. Its a nice shot though, look at the barrel smoke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 And voila... must be a slug then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 And voila... "**** me, you're right" says DustyFox, "it's a Hockey Puck". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 "**** me, you're right" says DustyFox, "it's a Hockey Puck". I dont know what it is, but came up with these: 1) A spent cartridge with the brass head on the left of the object. 2) the shot is still in the casing that holds the shot for a little while. Probably 1 gets my vote PP looks like you still have to find that perfect picture DF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 2) the shot is still in the casing that holds the shot for a little while. Explain please? That one lost me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) ''2) the shot is still in the casing that holds the shot for a little while.'' a shot cup/wad. page 6 Edited November 1, 2008 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 well as far as im aware,when the shot leaves the barrel,it stays in the wad (if plastic) for around 15 yds before it starts to spread,got to be empty cart imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 ''2) the shot is still in the casing that holds the shot for a little while.'' a shot cup/wad. page 6 Thats what I meant Markio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Well I may as well add fuel to this dummy spitting thread but that ain't no shot string. The gun is pointing in the wrong direction and that black blob in the photo is a case. In the time it takes for the bolt to open and the case to eject the shot string would be several feet long. If PP was shooting DTL as he points out then where is the clay in relation to the shot? The clay only leaves the trap in one of three trajectories so it should be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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