wannabefisher Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 i've had my "new" gun for probably 6 months now, and last week finally managed to get it zeroed in roughly. Decided to go for a stroll around a few fields at lunch time, but it was frosty and there was no sign of shootable wildlife. Until out in the middle of the ploughed field a hard got up and started to run - from what I don't know. After a few seconds watching it I decided for some reason to have a crack - I guess I just wanted to break the gun in. Anyway, imagine my shock when it cartwheeled a split second after I pulled the trigger... I looked again, and sure enough it was lying there, not moving. I paced it out (in trainers on a freshly ploughed field) - 114m! Pretty incredible really, I don't think I'll ever hit a moving target like that again. I'm not sure whether it's more a case of very lucky shooter or very unlucky hare. Both probably! Here's the photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyo Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 it dont look like its movin much there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 NICE TOOL oh and nice shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 great shot mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 i've had my "new" gun for probably 6 months now, and last week finally managed to get it zeroed in roughly. Decided to go for a stroll around a few fields at lunch time, but it was frosty and there was no sign of shootable wildlife. Until out in the middle of the ploughed field a hard got up and started to run - from what I don't know. After a few seconds watching it I decided for some reason to have a crack - I guess I just wanted to break the gun in. Anyway, imagine my shock when it cartwheeled a split second after I pulled the trigger... I looked again, and sure enough it was lying there, not moving. I paced it out (in trainers on a freshly ploughed field) - 114m! Pretty incredible really, I don't think I'll ever hit a moving target like that again. I'm not sure whether it's more a case of very lucky shooter or very unlucky hare. Both probably! Ok so how rough is your rifle zeroed?? and at what range?? You decided to have a crack at it?? what would of happend if you wounded it?? could you do the 100 yard dash in under 10 secs??? Sorry but sounds like you need to check your hunting morals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Ok so how rough is your rifle zeroed?? and at what range?? You decided to have a crack at it?? what would of happend if you wounded it?? could you do the 100 yard dash in under 10 secs??? Sorry but sounds like you need to check your hunting morals i was waiting for that reply "roughly" means that I have zeroed it but have not yet been to the indoor 100m range to get it precisely where I want on a benchrest. It is zeroed at 100m now to a good enough precision to be safe for hunting with. What if I had injured it? Well then it would have slowed down and I could have got it again. But on second thoughts maybe you are right - next time I will use the .243 just to be on the safe side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 What scope is that you have on there? Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 leupold vx-iii 3.5-10x50 as you can see ive lost the scope caps, and since GMK don't import that model into the UK I'm having to get them via Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks for that, it obviously works well! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 i was waiting for that reply "roughly" means that I have zeroed it but have not yet been to the indoor 100m range to get it precisely where I want on a benchrest. It is zeroed at 100m now to a good enough precision to be safe for hunting with. What if I had injured it? Well then it would have slowed down and I could have got it again. But on second thoughts maybe you are right - next time I will use the .243 just to be on the safe side. he's got a point you really don't shoot moving targets with a rifle, if you have no regard for your quarry then carry on but believe me wound a hare badly and it will probably put you off shooting for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Do you really believe it is that simple? When you are roost shooting do you wait until the birds have landed to make sure you kill them? When game shooting do you shoot the pheasant flying 3m over your head because it is a sure kill? nothing's black and white! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 yes it is with a rifle with a single shot you just don't do it. Only circumstances it may be acceptable is if you've injured the animal with the first shot and to stop it getting away. If you're a novice shot you really need a mentor to teach you about rifle shooting as shooting running game is not something you can compare to using a shotgun and I really can't believe you had so many people saying good shot as it wasn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 sorry I can't agree with that With a rifle you either hit or miss. If you hit, especially with a round such as the 17hmr, then the chances of putting down the animal are very good. I won't need to explain to you how this is certainly not the case with a shotgun, and the chances or injuring are much, much higher - especially at range. I'm not expecting to change your mind, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinea Fowl Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 al4x have a good point there. Just take it as good advice for next time you go out shooting, we all make mistakes when we first start shooting but mistakes can get you into some trouble. If you wound an animal it can get away from you and you might never find it again which mean it will suffer a painful death, After all it might just be vermin but as hunters we have to ensure we cause our quarry as little harm as possible. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 until you shoot too far back and leave it with damage to back legs or stomache, the principle with a shotgun is totally different. You really do need a mentor to show you what to do as rifle shooting is just not safe or ethical if you shoot at animals on the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 until you shoot too far back and leave it with damage to back legs or stomache, the principle with a shotgun is totally different. You really do need a mentor to show you what to do as rifle shooting is just not safe or ethical if you shoot at animals on the move. since I'm not very clever, explain to me how the principal is different with a shotgun? If by principal you mean that is is generally thought of as being more ethically responsible to injure animals with a shotgun than with a rifle then I would agree with you. But I doubt that is what you are thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 since I'm not very clever, explain to me how the principal is different with a shotgun? If by principal you mean that is is generally thought of as being more ethically responsible to injure animals with a shotgun than with a rifle then I would agree with you. But I doubt that is what you are thinking? How many years have you been shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) depends when you define started shooting - I shot my first clay 15 years ago, have had SGC for 10 years, FAC for 6 Edited January 27, 2009 by wannabefisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberlegs Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) al4x guess you dont want to come driven boar shooting with me then?hell i would not want to take that shot range is a bit much,but they do it driven boar shooting over less distance Edited January 27, 2009 by rubberlegs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) al4x guess you dont want to come driven boar shooting with me then? There are valid points to be made with this topic.. The most important thing i want to stress is do not make running shots if you are not sure.. Not all mine are made while on the hoof, but have taken many that way I guess i wouldnt experiment on a living critter if you dont know you abilities.. I shoot at least 5 times a week Other than that great shot mate Edited January 27, 2009 by LeeinVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinea Fowl Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 You can`t compare a shotgun with a rifle. . I paced it out (in trainers on a freshly ploughed field) - 114m! That is a very irresponsible shot to take with a rifle on a moving target especially when you consider the size of the hare. Also, you would of have to really concentrate on the hare as it was moving at the time, which means you could not have ensured that you have a good backstop should you miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 hell i would not want to take that shot at least keep your original post there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 shooting a running target with a single projectile at 100yrds with it not being 100% scoped in is irreisponcible and you are far more likely to wound your target then if you are shooting a running target with 200 pellets at 30 yrds. and everyone genrally practises on clays with a shotgun so they get used to the gun and distances to ensure when they come to live animals they can be confident with a clean kill. and thinking that if you hit your target with a 17hmr bullet its not going to go far you are very much mistaken, when it comes to an animals life they suddenly find the strength to run. you should have stuck to shooting clays. and certainly need a mentor for your rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 You can`t compare a shotgun with a rifle. That is a very irresponsible shot to take with a rifle on a moving target especially when you consider the size of the hare. Also, you would of have to really concentrate on the hare as it was moving at the time, which means you could not have ensured that you have a good backstop should you miss. 1) Tell me why not 2) Seriously?? You do not know anything about the other conditions and you are trying to tell me it was an unsafe shot? Do your self a favour and stick to the facts rather than attacking me for being dangerous when you don't have a clue; it just makes you look vindictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabefisher Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 shooting a running target with a single projectile at 100yrds with it not being 100% scoped in is irreisponcible and you are far more likely to wound your target then if you are shooting a running target with 200 pellets at 30 yrds. and everyone genrally practises on clays with a shotgun so they get used to the gun and distances to ensure when they come to live animals they can be confident with a clean kill. and thinking that if you hit your target with a 17hmr bullet its not going to go far you are very much mistaken, when it comes to an animals life they suddenly find the strength to run. you should have stuck to shooting clays. and certainly need a mentor for your rifles You're right it wasn't what I would consider 100% scoped in, it was 98%, and as much as I would wager almost anyone on here does. How many people here go to an indoor range to benchrest zero their guns? The fact is that a higher proportion of shots result in wounded animals with a shotgun than a rifle, and I don't see you bleating on about that. Try and tell me you've never shot at a bird at more than 30m. Did you hit it? If so then you shouldn't have taken the shot in the first place. Did you miss it? You could have very easily hit it and not killed it then and there - it is MUCH more difficult to know with a shotgun, and you can never be sure. Life is not black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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