Whitebridges Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Archie Coats shot 550 in a day (10th Jan 1962) for about 660 carts. Has the number shot or ammo ave. per bird been beaten since? His barrels got warm apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lander Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I think that George Digweed now holds the record for most pigeon shot in a day, think it was around 660 shot over sown beans. All the best Lander (Buzz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 think it was around 660 shot over sown beans. There are many who believe it was shot over a "baited" field, in fact I think this has been admitted. Still good shooting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted February 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Thanks, I've had a quick browse round on the web and can't trace any details about George's bag. If there is anymore info i'd be interested, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lander Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 (edited) Cranfield............that was what i had heard, was it about 1998? cant be sure, off to see if i can find out more details about it , will let you know if i find anything All the best Lander ( Buzz ) Edited February 20, 2005 by lander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 lander, ask Will (Beesley), I think he was shooting on one of Will's fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Whitebridges, George Digweed did have a rather good day organised by Phil Beesley, this was featured in Shooting Gazette.Subsequently been bettered by a guy from Lincolnshire twice.Could find the articles if you wish but I find it boring.As I have posted many times, shooting should be up the hedgerow, kill a few, prop 'em up,kill a few more, go home and clean and cook 'em.Unless your doing pest control of cause.But baiting a field aint pest control in my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I think if someone has the opportunity to shoot a very big bag of pigeons (rural pest No 1), then the best of luck to them. I agree that baiting a field doesn't appeal to me, but is it much different than luring the birds in with decoys ? Having had a few very big bags, I don't think I have the stamina and concentration to shoot like that anymore (even if the circumstances were right). Some people (especially those that post their fanciful dreams on here) would be surprised how exhausting shooting large numbers of birds can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nino Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 What do you mean by baited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 A field is "baited" with food for the pigeons, usually wheat grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted February 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 My best number was 116 on peas a few years back and that was knackering enough.The shooting is one thing but lugging all the gear, carts, gun, hide bits etc is another side to things. To be honest I'd rather shoot 'em at roost or along a flight line as generally it's a bit more challenging. There again it it was my crop and livelihood I'ds be grateful to the likes of George and Archie.It's just interesting to know the sort of conditions that need to prevail to make a really big bag. Not sure I go along with this baiting business but each to there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 You trolling b@stards re: baited field!!! And its Beasley not Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 And its Beasley not Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesley Will, I had to get you to reply somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 think it was around 660 shot over sown beans. There are many who believe it was shot over a "baited" field, in fact I think this has been admitted. Still good shooting though. Yes I know this to be true FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Now we have started a good topic, it's got my nostalgia juices flowing, does anyone remember John Ranson from Powys, I believe he was credited with bettering (I don't like the word beat) Archie's record, then came GD then the guy from Lincoln,I think there might be someone from Cambridge also,perhaps we can compile a league table?It could give us something to aim for (no pun intended)but I have to say round here (Shropshire) it is dire at the moment to put a decent bag together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I saw a bag of 340 in 1984 over a pea field in lincolnshire. I cant remember the guys name but I was shooting in an adjacent pea field with my Grandfather. Remarkable in as much as the chap didnt start shooting until noon and ran out of cartridges by 5.00. We gave him 150 ! Thats a bird killed every 52 seconds. We both estimated that about 3 to 4000 woodies were raiding these three fields that week end. The Farmer was doing his nut as they had earlier in the month completely stripped a 10 acre pea field. They were like bloody locusts and I have never seen that many birds accumulated in one area before. The other remarkable thing was that there were gas guns going off all around but the birds were just lifting off and setting down again with complete immunity. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) I thought that Hill Billy held the record with 168 in 2 hours whilst roost shooting with his 14 shot semi auto !!! Paul in North Lincs. Edited February 21, 2005 by Paul in North Lincs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Dont be daft..... it was only a 12 shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 not wanting to start a fight on here but whats the differance to baiting a field and feeding game to hold them on your patch? not just to try for a record but for a better than day than you might get . just wondering what people thought. cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 The other remarkable thing was that there were gas guns going off all around but the birds were just lifting off and setting down again with complete immunity. FM. I have found that when pigeons become used to the regular bang of a gas gun that this can be beneficial to the shooter as the bang of the gun only scares them off for a short time and then they return. I have seen them feeding on peas within 20 yards either side of a gas gun and they haven't even looked up when it has gone off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...=baiting+fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 They think its you firing at them Ern and they know they are perfectly safe. johhny, probably there isn't any difference. As pigeons are classed as an agricultural pest (hence the open licence), any legal method that exterminates them should be acceptable. However, there will be those that consider it unsporting. One thing to consider is that most of the fed game birds are released birds and if you paid for them, you wouldn't want them wandering off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 They think its you firing at them Ern and they know they are perfectly safe. :< The truth can often hurt Cranfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I think that gas guns can be a shooters best friend. I have a small holding between 3 large fields which at this time of the year all have gas guns banging away. All I have to do is sit under the flight lines with a few decoys and a packet of fags and wait for the bang when they all change fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Boy Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I seem to remember a Simon Ward from Harrogate who is British Sporting Side by Side champion(Clays) who shot 720 ? pigeons with his 20g s/s a few years ago, anyone recall this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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